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GHOSTLY GOINGS ON

Posted by anthonynorth on December 16, 2007

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alpha-ghost-3.jpg So many people take it for granted that ghosts are spirits of the dead. Whether this is true or not is unlikely ever to be proved one way or the other. And perhaps that is the beauty of a mystery.
We need mysteries to be fully human, and nothing satisfies this factor more than a ghost. But the reality is there ARE psycho-sociological mechanisms that can account for the vast majority. Let’s have a few examples from Britain.

GHOSTLY TALES

Seen on many occasions in St James’s Palace is the ghost of valet to the Duke of Cumberland, Sellis. Usually seen propped up in a bed with a slit throat, this gruesome ghost seems to be a remembrance of Sellis’s death in May 1810. According to his master, Sellis tried to kill him, but, failing, committed suicide. A pertinent rumour of the time had it that the Duke was the murderer, killing Sellis to stop him blackmailing him after he had had an affair with the valet’s daughter.
Past residents of the Cumbrian village of Eden Hall used to speak of a ghostly skeleton that swung from a rotting gallows on stormy nights. The ghost is said to be that of Thomas Nicholson, hanged in August 1767 for robbing and murdering his Godfather. His body was left on the gibbet for two days as a warning to others.
Screams are said to echo through Marsden Grotto, a series of caverns between South Shields and Sunderland. Once used by smugglers to hide their booty, one smuggling gang was betrayed by a man known as John the Jibber. A friend of the smugglers heard of the betrayal and warned the gang before they were arrested. Later, they got John the Jibber, took him to the cavern, put him in a barrel, hoisted him to the roof and left him to starve.

SOCIAL FUNCTION

Most of these stories we can dismiss in terms of producing real ghosts. But within most ghost stories we can see an important social function. For in the main, the classic ‘true’ ghost story usually held an important moral message, warning of the dangers of such things as murder or infidelity.
Thus, by allying the moral aspect to the supernatural, the morality is enforced by scaring a superstitious population into thinking twice about being immoral. Indeed, not only did ghost stories become the vehicle for the moral tale. Sometimes fame would be achieved and remembered by the famous becoming ghosts.
Typical is Grace Darling, one of England’s greatest heroines. Born in 1815, she was the daughter of William Darling, keeper of the Longstone Lighthouse on the Farne Islands off Northumberland.
In 1838 the ship Forfarshire floundered. Grace and her father took their small rowing boat into stormy seas and rescued five crewmen. Grace then made a second trip with two of the crew and saved a further four seamen.
Grace died of consumption four years later. Seen as a darling of the nation, it was evident she would not be forgotten, and it seems her ghost walks the lighthouse to make sure of it. As late as 1976, two lighthouse keepers appeared on television, telling of their separate sightings of the heroine.

THEORIES OF HAUNTINGS

Most people, today, appear to be scathing of ghost stories, yet in private, most people have experienced something ‘strange’ enough to be classed as a ghostly experience. In 1971 Dr W Dewi Rees reported in the British Medical Journal that half the widows in his practice had seen their loved ones after death. In the 1890s the Society for Psychical Research published a Census of Hallucinations, showing that out of 17,000 people interviewed nearly 1,700 had seen ghosts.
Many theories have been offered to explain ghost sightings. SPR member Frederic Myers thought ghosts to be a kind of residue of personal energy they generated whilst alive.
Edmund Gurney suggested they were, perhaps, a form of telepathy from beyond the grave. In 1943 GNM Tyrrell advanced this telepathy theory by arguing a ghost is a two part drama. The telepathy becomes the ‘producer’, then an other-worldly stage ‘director’ went on to provide the props.

MIND + ENVIRONMENT = SPOOKY

Following the publication of Alfred Watkins’ ‘The Old Straight Track’ in 1921, introducing ‘leys’ and the subject of Earth Mysteries, ghosts have been put down by many to geophysical forces, many ghost sightings appearing at the conjunction of two leys.
Fellow founder of the SPR Sir Oliver Lodge came up with a well used theory when he argued that an event can be photographed upon the environment in which the event took place. Known as the ‘tape recording’ theory, from time to time the event is replayed, producing the ghost.
Researcher Tom Lethbridge offered a variation on this theme in 1963. An old witch used to live next door to him. When the witch died, he felt a field of depression around her cottage. It reminded him of when he had felt a similar depression near Wokingham as a teenager.
A couple of days after this feeling, the body of a suicide was found at the exact spot. Could such fields be impinged upon the environment? Later, Lethbridge and his wife were to visit Labrum Bay and he again felt a depression. On a subsequent visit to the nearby cliffs, his wife felt an urge to jump off.
Lethbridge associated these fields with magnetic fields. Calling them ‘ghouls’, he knew people also produced magnetic fields. Could emotions pass from an event imprinted on a ghoul to a person’s field, thus producing the same emotion, and maybe a ghost?
Ghosthunter Andrew Green has another variation on the theme. When he was a teenager he visited a building thought to be haunted. A murder had been committed there and twenty people had jumped from an adjacent tower. Going up the tower he, too, felt the urge to jump.
Outside the building once more, he took a picture. When developed, there was an image of a girl looking out of a window. Kodak informed him that such images were not unusual with certain films. Green decided such images, and ghosts in general, were generated by someone thinking of a loved one, the thought placing a heat image of the deceased on the location.

DREAMING AND HALLUCINATION

There is, of course, a problem with all these theories. They are all unprovable. More practical is research, in the 1950s, by Nathaniel Kleitman of Chicago, into dreaming. He noted that dreaming actually occurred during REM, or rapid-eye-movement sleep.
If awoken during this period or soon afterwards, the dream was recalled with absolute clarity. Researchers then went on to ask, if, at the point of awakening, the dream was on-going, could it be externalised? The most common ghost is, of course, the ‘bedroom visitor’.
If externalisation of what goes on in the mind was possible, then a valid and logical explanation could be put to the majority of ghosts. Research then went on to show that at the point between wakefulness and sleep, externalisations were, indeed, possible.
Whilst going off to sleep, hypnogogic hallucinations can occur. Whilst awakening, they are known as hypnapompic. But could such a phenomenon be at the heart of all ghostly activity?

UNDERSTANDING HALLUCINATION

Hallucination is one of the most feared words in the English language; more feared, it would seem, than ghost - a word it could easily explain. The reason for the fear is that hallucination is thought to be the province of the psychologically unstable. But this is not the case.
In 1954 researchers at Canada’s McGill University showed that we can all, at times, hallucinate. Placing subjects in sensory deprivation chambers, it became clear that when outside stimuli seems to be cut off, the mind continues to function to the point that it can create seemingly externalised hallucinations.
It seems that when the mind has nothing to process, it will create its own hallucinatory world. And this seems to be equally the case when we are tired. At such times we can mis-identify, or create externalised images, from our own mind.
What could best be termed as a moment of ‘sensory decalibration’ many researchers are satisfied that this is the mechanism behind ghostly encounters. If such a vision occurs as you are nearing sleep, we have the classic bedroom visitor.

ELECTRO-MAGNETISM

At times even the environment can have a hallucinatory effect upon the mind. Psychologist Michael Persinger working in Ontario showed this with his ‘heaven and hell’ chamber.
Bombarding the brain with pulses of electromagnetic energy, subjects have lost control of their feelings and experienced various paranormal phenomena including ‘ghosts’. Persinger believes that electromagnetism changes the level of melatonin in the brain, causing the hallucination.
And such electromagnetic disturbances are all around us, giving the environment a strong influence upon our minds. Such electromagnetic build-up is most commonly associated with thunderstorms - as are many classic ghost stories.

CULTURAL STIMULI

This connection seems to be scientific fact. In the above we have proven mechanisms that could lie behind ghostly encounters. But why should people be more prone to seeing a ghost in a suspected haunted building?
Even more disturbing, how can a person correctly visualise information about a location they should not have? The answer may not be quite as disturbing as we think.
Britain is known as the ‘ghost capital of the world’, with no fewer than 10,000 suspected haunted sites. And the reason for this is easy to find. For it is a simple fact that Britain can boast well over a thousand years of unbroken cultural development. And it is this - culture - which seems to be the key.
Such cultural development impinges upon sites of cultural importance which, if ancient, are guaranteed to have supernatural elements imposed upon them. Typical is the Tower of London, which has been home to many cultural ghosts which have been repeatedly seen and are still seen today.
Hence, we can argue that when a person is visiting such a site, and is perhaps tired at the time, an hallucination of such a cultural ghost can automatically follow.
This process doesn’t, however, explain the almost exact form of such sightings, nor how a non-cultural ghost can be correctly identified after the encounter. But a subtle advancement of this cultural input does.

PHANTOM HITCHHIKERS

In February 1951 a guard shot at a figure running between two parked bombers on an American Air Force base in England. When the guard went to investigate, the intruder had disappeared.
Investigating the incident, a security officer called Bordeaux interviewed another airman who, at the same time, picked up a hitchhiker in RAF uniform. Offering him a cigarette, when the driver again looked, the man was no longer there.
The above is one of the earliest accounts of a phenomenon known as the ‘phantom hitchhiker’, where a driver stops for, or gives a lift to, someone who doesn’t exist. With the above incident we must bear in mind that all American Air Force bases in England were originally RAF bases, which were repeatedly bombed during World War Two.
Due to this, right up to the 1960s dozens of similar ghost stories existed of dead RAF personnel. However, not all incidents occur within an easily identified existing culture of ghost sightings.
Typical is the case of Roy Fulton who, one night in 1979, stopped his van to pick up a hitchhiker near Dunstable. A youth of about twenty, the hitchhiker opened the door and got in. Setting off again, Fulton turned to speak to the youth, but he had disappeared. Immediately reporting the incident, witnesses testified that Fulton was deeply shocked by the incident.
The first, natural, inclination is to dismiss such stories as attention-seeking or active imagination. But neither of these scenarios adds up. Stories often come from perfectly sensible people who would rather cover up the event than leave themselves open to ridicule. Something is certainly going on here. And cases can get stranger.

AN IN-DEPTH MIND

One night in 1975 a man rushed into a police station to report he had ‘knocked over’ a girl at Bluebell Hill on the A229 in Kent. Getting out of the car, he had seen she was dead and placed a coat over her.
When the police arrived, there was nothing there. Earlier that year, a taxi driver had picked up a distressed girl near Bluebell Hill and taken her home. Later, he went back to the house to check she was alright.
He discovered that the girl had been killed in a car crash in November 1965, along with three of her friends, close to the site. He went on to pick out the girl from a picture of the dead girls.
To many researchers such stark testimonies are concrete evidence of survival of bodily death. But could a more rational explanation exist to answer such cases? I’ve often written about cryptomnesia, and the ability of the unconscious to absorb phenomenal amounts of information.
We do, infact, absorb most of our information unconsciously. When you look down a busy street, you only ‘see’ what you are looking for. But this seeing is only a conscious mechanism. Whether we are directing attention at other things in the street or not, unconsciously the information is still received and enters our memory.
This same sensory ability applies to every sensory event. We may not be listening to that radio in the background, we may only be scanning that newspaper, but a remarkable amount of the information enters the unconscious mind.
And whilst we may never access this information, it is feasible to suggest that whilst driving, tired, by the site of a previous horrendous accident that had been previously reported, we may unconsciously connect with the forgotten report and hallucinate images from it.
The end result of the encounter is that the very person involved is hallucinated before our very eyes.
Ghost have a logical explanation. Indeed, so exact can the mechanisms be seen to be that the question must be asked: why don’t we see them more often than we do?
Well, it could be that we see ghosts more often than we think. Consider the above taxi driver. Until he went back to check on her, he never knew the girl was a ghost. So maybe we do see ghosts more often. But unless we have reason to suspect, we don’t realise what they are.

© Anthony North, December 2007

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18 Responses to “GHOSTLY GOINGS ON”

  1. Giath Olabi Says:

    Hi.
    Thank you for your effort and time.
    when I read your essay , I have remembered an experience ,I have done with my college ,where I guess a card that he keep looking on it , and we have a results more than probability science expected , during this experience I could see in my mind what he is looking for.
    Brain can receive thoughts and feelings by means tools more than five senses, but question is what is this tools and how it works?
    My be when man is tired or in REM then consciousness will be weak ,and unconsciousness can use his tools producing a lot of confusion and maybe some good receiving.
    Electromagnetic fields can cause depressed feeling and maybe can have real thoughts also which brain can receive and transmit.

  2. poseidonsmuse Says:

    Wonderful and thorough essay on the paranormal side of ghostly phenomenon Anthony (As per Poetman’s previous comment made some time ago - I do wonder if you ever sleep given the intensity and length of your writing…!). ;)

    With that said…I was wondering, from your research, if you have you encountered any evidence to support whether or not the female brain may be more susceptible to such phenomena (apart from the widows in Rees’ study of 1971)? Just curious.

    Speaking of ley-lines. Trying to get hold of a copy of Watkin’s (1922) other book, “Early British Trackways” is like trying to extract molasses through a straw. Fascinating read I would imagine (as would be “The Old Straight Track”). You are rather fortunate to live in the UK - your environment is dripping with ancient history…

  3. Selma Says:

    This was such an interesting post.A friend of mine is studying ‘near death experiences’ at the moment and the white light phenomenon. He believes it is caused by electromagnetic fields, not by seeing God. I know he would support the images of ghosts caused by electromagnetic residue as a theory. Yet, a medium I met long ago said that ghosts were evidence that there is life after death. That they were messengers from ‘beyond the grave.’ I would love to hear your thoughts on the afterlife in a future essay!

  4. Kevin Says:

    Interesting speculations on a timeworn subject but I find them all problematic, as they fail to explain my own experiences. The one which caused me greatest pause was the death apparition of my father, which occured in August of 1995. At the time, he was at a hospital receiving his weekly transfusion (he was dying of myelodisplasia and needed transfusions to bolster his white cell count;doctors assured us he’d probably live through the end of the year), accompanied by my sister. I was some 35 miles away when, quite suddenly and unexpectedly, my father appeared beside me for a moment, then vanished. This quite startled me, as I’d never had such an experience before or since. About 20 minutes later my sister called with the news that our father had passed on while the transfusion was in progress, the doctors later discovering that he had died of pneumonia resulting from his blood/bone disease. A lifelong smoker and asthmatic, his ubiquitous breathing difficulties masked the fluid build-up. My sister and I were later able to deduce that my apparitional experience coincided with the time of my father’s passing, as she was at his side throughout the ordeal. The explanations proffered by the various sources in your essay do not seem to relate to what are known as “death apparitions”, particularly in cases such as mine wherein the time factor can be so closely affixed. Such ad hoc explanations as “coincidence” strike me as unsupportively dismissive and offering nothing toward understanding such fundamentally profound concepts as consciousness and its continuation after bodily death. The nature of Mind strikes me as THE core mystery, the questions of existence and the purpose of meaning.

  5. Shirley Says:

    Good evening, Anthony–

    A thorough and most interesting essay. I personally have never seen a ghost or anything resembling such a specter. I believe in the Bible and understand it to teach against divination and witchcraft, although by so mentioning I am not implying that ghost sightings are a product of sorcery. I have no knowledge of that. I wonder though, if a person such as I who has a bias against witchery would be less prone to observe “spirits.”

    It’s a curious world we inhabit, and so many things beyond a certain knowing.

    Thank you for your writing.

  6. rome Says:

    ANOTHER GHOSTLY TALE…..

    I find this one particularly fascinating…it’s about a popular Roman ghost which is said to appear at night on a black coach on Ponte Sisto heading towards Trastevere area. The black coach is driven by Olimpia Maidalchi a very ambitious woman who married rich men in order to become powerful. With her second marriage she even became the Pope’s sister in law. She lived in the famous Pamphili Palace, situated south of Piazza Navona from which she acted like a real queen. Her husband, 30 years older than she was, died and when Pope Innocenzio X, her brother in law was dying too, she understood her power was about to end since she was not at all loved by the Romans. Therefore she stole two boxes full of gold and ran away to never return to Rome. She was exiliated by the new Pope Alessandro VII and died of Plague 4 years later. According to the legend, she is seen at night with her gold running towards her former palace on Ponte Sisto.

  7. anthonynorth Says:

    Hi Giath Olabi,
    Thanks for that. The experiment you mention is one of the most used for telepathy, etc. I write about the subject here, if you’re interestyed:

    http://beyondtheblog.wordpress.com/2007/10/14/sympathy-of-souls

    Hi PM,
    Yes, the UK is fascinating for this kind of stuff. The village I live in now has an old church with a 12th century knight buried there. According to legend he was one of the old dragon slayers - such stories are everywhere.
    Honestly, I do sleep. I’ve been researching the paranormal for over twenty years so such essays come easy. And when I think of writers such as Colin Wilson, with over 80 books, many over 600 pages - well, I’m not as prolific as people think.
    There have been many tests, etc, on the differing ‘wiring’ of male/female brains. Conan Doyle once noted, about mediumship, that the female mind was more vacant, thus allowing …
    … well, I won’t go further :-)
    To me, such studies are pointless in this field, because the simple fact is women tend to be more open in admitting such experiences. No test has yet managed to measure this gender difference.

    Hi Selma,
    Thanks for that. I’ve already written on the afterlife here:

    http://beyondtheblog.wordpress.com/2007/06/24/afterlife

    It’s a subject I’ll be coming back to some time, with more to say, but it features my initial thoughts on the subject.
    By sheer coincidence - whatever that is - I’m working on an OBE post at the moment, which features near death experiences. Don’t know when it will be posted, but certainly in the next couple of weeks.

  8. anthonynorth Says:

    Some marvellous comments this morning - I’ve had to answer in two comments myself. That’s great! Keep ‘em coming …

    Hi Kevin,
    Thanks for that experience. It is quite common for this to happen, and tends to come under the subject of ‘crisis apparitions’. Usually it is seen as an externalisation of a form of clairvoyant experience. I actually deal with it in this post:

    http://beyondtheblog.wordpress.com/2007/09/02/telepathy-and-community

    Hope it offers some kind of explanation.

    Hi Shirley,
    Thanks for the comment. In my many years of research one thing that seems a definite is that a person only sees what their ‘culture’ suggests they will see. So it is highly likely that your belief would debar you from experiencing such things.
    There was a marvellous experiment done many years ago by researcher Prof Arthur Ellison. During a lecture in front of a mixed audience, he rigged a bowl of flowers by his lecturn to rise into the air during his lecture. He never mentioned or acknowledged this ‘event’.
    In questions afterwards, someone mentioned the flowers rising. A sigh of relief came and people began to talk about it. Spiritualists in the audience saw ’spirit hands’ lift the flowers, whilst, most interestingly, some sceptics didn’t see the event at all. Their mind couldn’t accept it, so it was blanked out.
    You are right. It IS a curious world we inhabit.

    Hi Rome,
    This kind of ghost is, I’m sure, connected with communal moralising. It is to do with the power of the story to provide taboo. Many such tales have this theme, and I write about them, and their purpose, here:

    http://beyondtheblog.wordpress.com/2007/08/01/ghost-and-culture

    I hope it sheds some light. Thanks for the story.

  9. vimal Says:

    I think, dismissing these experiences as simply hallucinations, geomagnetic phenomenon, cultural thing, crisis appiration etc is too simplistic in approach specially in the light of such highly scietific and technical enquiries (http://www.newsmonster.co.uk/mysterous-ghostly-orbs-perplex-researchers.html) into this subject. Anybody seriously interested in exploring this subject might like to have a look at the works of such luminaries as Prof David Fontana (http://www.amazon.com/There-Afterlife-Comprehensive-Overview-Evidence/dp/1903816904/ref=pd_bbs_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1197946022&sr=1-3),
    Victor Zammit(http://www.victorzammit.com/index.html), Slone Experiment etc. And who can contest the work of Late Prof Ian Stevenson on Reincarnation. So often we come across incidences where a kid has such profound memories of having lived before(http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/dailycourier/news/s_463166.html) that its hard to explain it with anything other than continuation of life after death. One of the most profound case that was discovered only recently is this one (
    http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2001290023-2006410683,,00.html) and you can watch the associated documentary here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5cGSUBU8-w
    One can keep going on and on with such examples which are so hard to dismiss. I think, having a typical reductionist view does not help the our eternal quest to solve the mystery of life. However the good thing is that now a days at least mainstream science also has started taking interest in this topic which once used to be considered a taboo.

    Vimal

  10. Craig Says:

    I was looking into information on seeing your loved one after they die, as in walking around, and I came across this site: http://www.signfromlovedone.com/
    It had a nice feel good message to it and I recommend checking it out.

  11. anthonynorth Says:

    Hi Craig,
    Thanks for that.

    Hi Vimal,
    I have an initial essay on Reincarnation here:

    http://beyondtheblog.wordpress.com/2007/12/02/life-before-this

    There will be more to come on the subject. You said:

    ‘However the good thing is that now a days at least mainstream science also has started taking interest in this topic which once used to be considered a taboo.’

    Really? In over 20 years of research I’ve never seen this happen. True, the occasional scientist will be brave enough, but they are very few, and usually suffer in terms of reputation by doing so.
    And this is why a more reductionist approach is so important. I’m not saying I’m right, and I hope that in future more understanding will come. But knowledge can only advance by taking our existing knowledge with us, and simply nudging it ahead.
    Taking huge steps into the darkness of knowledge proves only the imagination of the thinker. It does nothing for knowledge in the end. So slowly goes, hopefully convincing sceptics along thew way.
    It will be a long road.

  12. vimal Says:

    Hi Anthony,

    Its surprising that you haven’t seen that happen in last 20 years. I would advice if you do some more research by looking at some of the works that I have quoted above, you will find what is going on. If you seriously study some of the works that like that Dr. David Fontana, Victor Zammit and Dr. Pim van Lommel, you will realize that there are lot of people who have kept the windows of their minds open to allow the fresh air of new knowledge to come in. In my opinion reductionist approach represents a shear arrogance. All these folks who are advancing the frontiers of our knowledge, are people of eminence in their respective fields and they are indeed taking existing knowledge into account while pursuing this journey of discovery. In my opinion, had Galileo not made some bold diversions from the ‘existing knowledge’, we would still be living in a ‘flat world’. Bottom line is one has to keep the mind open with a sense of acceptability of the possibility of existence of something which our current knowledge falls short of explaining rather than just deny it. I wonder if you are familiar with the possibilities of existence of other dimensions (10 in all) which mainstream physists have been postulating for so long and now all out efforts being made to discover those dimensions? If one were to take the reductionist approach such effrots would never be made. So again, my friend, in my opinion, having a reductionist approach represnts nothing more than a medieval mindset. Please believe me, I am not trying to start a flame war or targeting these comments on the intellectual capability of anybody. If anybody feels offended, I offer my humble apologies in advance.

    Vimal

  13. anthonynorth Says:

    Hi Vimal,
    Fontana is doing good work, I admit, but he isn’t a ’scientist’ as such. He’s a psychologist, a practice itself dismissed by most mainstream science as irrelevant.
    Yes, as I said, there are some brave scientists working on this area. In the past we had Crookes and Rhine. Ellison comes to mind, and Sheldrake is marvellous. I think also of Jahn, and the consciousness studies of Penrose and Hameroff are exceptional.
    But this isn’t mainstream science - it’s the occasional maverick, who I applaud. As for fringe science, yes, they theorise on 11 dimensions, and the role of consciousness, not to mention spontaneous action at a distance, in quantum theory will, I’m sure, lead to more understanding of the paranormal. But despite these theoretical concepts, mainstream science still refuses to adapt it to the paranormal.
    The reason why is, I suspect, this.
    Let’s take Galileo, who you put on a pedestal as a great scientist. But the reality is, everything he worked on had been theorised on before, but never proved.
    This is the problem. New knowledge must ride on the back of the old. This is the way we advance. Taking massive leaps into new knowledge is not knowledge, but belief. We have to go slowly, taking the thread of past knowledge with us.
    Sadly, reductionism is with us, so we must begin with this. Believe me, it annoys me as much as it annoys you. I think the difference is I’m a realist. Grasping for shadows too far ahead of the rest usually results in falling flat on your face, remembered by history as a crank, or not remembered at all.

  14. vimal Says:

    Hi Anthony,

    I really appreciate your response and width and depth of your knowledge and you have a valid point. When you say mainstream science still refuses it, I would agree with you with a qualification that that the acceptance has not reached the level where these concepts would become textbook matter. When I use the word mainstream science I really meant that if I compare the situation say with 50 years ago, people were simply afraid to risk their reputation. But at least now, quite a few eminent scientists, doctors etc are conducting research, making it public. In my opinion, that represents a big change and change always starts small. This change, howsoever small, makes me pretty excited as it leaves the field wide open. Yup, I know Fontana is not a scientist, but if you read his book, he does quote the works of lots of scientists. Similarly if you look at Victor Zammit’s book and site, you will see what so many scientists are upto. And for that matter, Victor Zammit is not a scientist, he is a retired Attorney General! Moreover, I feel, being a scientist represents a state of mind rather than holding some PhD in physics chemistry etc and that mindset is being open to the possibility. I think basically we agree, its just that probably I should have used the expression ‘mainstream science’ with a qualification attached to it.

    In the end, I must admit, your posts are very informative and very well written. Please keep up the good work.

    Vimal

  15. anthonynorth Says:

    Hi Vimal,
    Thanks for the kind words. I do love this type of exchange. So often contrary views are not really contrary at all, but sadly too many people fall out before realising this.
    Yes, we’re on the same side - perhaps with different interpretations, but the same side nonetheless.
    Your participation, here, is appreciated.

  16. red pill junkie Says:

    You know? thinking about these “phantom hitchhiker” events, along with a whole plethora of weird phenomena that seem to happen to some folks while driving those lonely highways, makes one think if while driving we are able to enter some sort of altered state of consciousness. I know that while I’m at the wheel doing my daily commute only a small fraction of my mind is actually concentrating on the task of avoiding an accident and following the rules of the road, while the rest is free to wander on my usual thoughts, kind of like letting the auto-pilot on.

    Factor that the sleepiness or weariness some drivers might experience, along with the trance-like exposure of those white lanes marked on the pavement, and you have the right ingredients for a fringe experience without the need of meditation or the ingestion of power plants! :-)

  17. Shirley Says:

    Hi again, Anthony. I find this discussion intriguing.

    In response to my first comment you wrote this interesting response:

    “There was a marvellous experiment done many years ago by researcher Prof Arthur Ellison. During a lecture in front of a mixed audience, he rigged a bowl of flowers by his lecturn to rise into the air during his lecture. He never mentioned or acknowledged this ‘event’.
    In questions afterwards, someone mentioned the flowers rising. A sigh of relief came and people began to talk about it. Spiritualists in the audience saw ’spirit hands’ lift the flowers, whilst, most interestingly, some sceptics didn’t see the event at all. Their mind couldn’t accept it, so it was blanked out.”

    While I have quite definite opinions about many things, I consider myself open-minded, and certainly know I am far from having anywhere close to “all the answers.” But you know something: I don’t like the thought of my sitting in that room and being involved in the experiment of Ellison and being one whose mind “blocked” the rising of the basket. I am uncomfortable with thinking my mind would betray me in that way–would conceal truth from me.

    Hope I made myself clear. Interesting, indeed.

  18. anthonynorth Says:

    Good morning Red,
    A good point. I’ve only dealt briefly so far on this blog about alien abduction, but on this subject on the UFO-tastic category (see left sidebar) I write:

    ‘Intriguingly, in alien car abductions, the abductee usually realizes they have lost time and are some distance on in their journey. Have they merely fantasized while they continued driving?’

    I’m quite convinced that this is a time when much phenomena can occur. As to the ‘mechanism’, I think we all experience it in a slight way. Have you ever been reading a book and suddenly realised that you haven’t been taking in the words, your mind elsewhere? But you HAVE actually continued reading and have to go back to where your mind started wandering.
    The great Colin Wilson argued that we all have a ‘robot’ inside us who takes over the boring tasks of life without thought, leaving us to go ‘elsewhere’.

    Hi Shirley,
    This can seem a worrying influence, but I think it is more common than we think. I spent nine years in the Royal Air Force, and during that time I can remember many military exercises where some ‘intruders’ made life very difficult for us.
    A good intruder is an expert in deception, and can have the most rational of people chasing shadows. I remember being in a guard command post as the most conflicting reports of the same thing would come in.
    It was the philosopher, Kant, who argued that we each have a ‘filter’ in the mind that defines the world in our own particular way. Hence, a large slice of our perception of reality can be very much subjective.
    Science itself has had, since 1926, the ‘uncertainty principle’, devised through quantum theory to show that an outside reality can be always hidden from our absolute perception.
    Sometimes this can seem to sit uncomfortably with, say, a ‘knowing’ of the certainty of the existence of God. But I don’t think it does. The history of the human race shows that we need beliefs to be fully human. I suppose the task of the seeker of knowledge is to form a balance between those things that seem to conflict.
    I would add that I’m never in the business of trying to knock someone’s peacefully held belief. I simply ask questions regarding the state of our knowledge. And I accept that the real delusion could well be not seeing God in the world.

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