TT #5 - HOW TO UNDERSTAND DEATH
Posted by anthonynorth on April 2, 2008
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YOU KNOW IT’S THE WRITE WAY
HOW TO UNDERSTAND DEATH
Now let’s not be morbid. Although this post is about death, I hope it is not depressing. Rather, it is about ideas surrounding death and afterlife, some classed as paranormal, others dealing with scientific understanding.
This is my 5th outing with THursday THirteen, and I’m still enjoying it greatly. The idea of a list allows me to condense a variety of aspects of a subject into a quick, easily accessible form. And I hope it lives long, cheating death.
COUNTDOWN
13. Death is the absence of life. But what, I’d like to know, is life? Indeed, it seems to me many people ARE dead in life.
12. The first known human expression came when Neanderthal Man began burying his dead. Some of his funary arrangements survive. But was this because he mourned, or was glad? Either way, appreciation of death seems to be tied up with our emotions.
11. Death forms the central element of most religions. In the east, death is cyclical, in that we come back as another incarnation. In the west, death is a transition to another, immortal, world. Seems like an ethereal utopia to me.
10. Can we die symbolically? Most mystical traditions are based on death and rebirth. Interestingly, research has been done on deep faints, which show we can experience images of afterlife. This is akin to the near death experience.
9. Shamanic practices in tribal cultures involve fasting, dancing and other devices to bring on a hysterical deep faint, thus visiting the ‘afterlife’. Could this psychological phenomenon be the root of the idea of religion?
8. Pascal used mathematics to persuade us to believe in afterlife and God. It was a simple gamble. If it’s true, then we’re prepared. If it’s not true, then it wouldn’t matter anyway. We’re not there to experience it.
7. People are said to come back from death. One expression is the ghost. Is this true, or can variations on hallucination and hysteria answer this phenomenon? If so, then like afterlife above, our understanding of afterlife is psychology.
6. Mediums are said to communicate with the dead. Interestingly, Spiritualism rose to prominence at times of social upheaval, when a lot of people were dying needlessly. The medium can give personal comfort to the bereaved, and maybe also fulfil a social role.
5. Many try to cheat death. One way is the death defying stunt. You see, approaching death is so life enhancing! Now isn’t that really dumb? Or are we all masochistic by nature?
4. Science tries to cheat death. This is done mainly through medical knowledge. We are constantly pushing back the time of death. Will the time come when we won’t die at all, but have our ‘consciousness’ transferred to a machine? Now wouldn’t that be cheating God!
3. While we wait for this, some people decide to be frozen before death, waiting for the time when their illness can be cured. I hope people are right that there’s no soul. ‘Cos if they’re wrong, then when they’re thawed out, they may prove the zombie exists!
2. Is death the end? Interestingly, science says energy cannot be destroyed, only transformed. Does this mean that death cannot be the end of us? Well, you can guarantee that science will find a way to rubbish the idea, regardless of their ‘proof’.
1. Maybe death is a thing about the individual. Maybe it is pure arrogance to think of extinction of ourselves. Life goes on in the species. Perhaps nature, God, whatever, sees the species as continuance, and the individual a simple blink of an eye in its progression.
(c) Anthony North, April 2008
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April 2, 2008 at 6:33 pm
Hi, Anthony!
wow, I LOVE this post. “Death” seems to be one of those subjects that is so highly charged with emotion, that most people I know fear it….and I totally attribute that to their religious points of view. Imagine, waiting to be “judged” on the other side! Was I good enough? Did I ’sin’ too much? Did I believe enough, have faith enough, do enough good deeds? Sheesh
As you probably know from my own bloggings, I’m a pretty huge proponent of the idea of both physical as well as spiritual ‘deaths’ that are cyclical in nature. It seems as if I have died and been reborn a half dozen times in my life (probably more!), as I walk through my life’s experiences trying to handle each one in the ‘highest and best’ possible way. Many times that has meant a ‘death’ of some sort - be it a relationship, an attitude, or a behavior.
Now that I’ve let go of the fundamentalist theory on the afterlife - as in “This is your ONE shot and you better get it right or ELSE!!” - I find myself feeling alot freer. Alot less guilty or afraid.
Whatever it is that we experience on the other side of this physical existance, it just seems right that it would be beautiful and loving.
Hope you are well!!
April 2, 2008 at 9:09 pm
Hi Grace,
Thanks for that. Yes, I’m fascinated by the symbolism of death and rebirth. It seems to be fundamental to all early religions, and I’m convinced it is tied up with the spirituality of life itself - its ups and downs, the changes we go through. And the ‘journey’ of spiritual enlightenment.
April 2, 2008 at 10:14 pm
As James Brown put it in one of his songs “Everybody wants to go to heaven, but nobody wants to die”. Truer words were never spoken. Happy TT.
April 2, 2008 at 10:15 pm
No. 10 is reason enough to hang out with some non-religious people once in a while. The here and now do me just fine!
April 2, 2008 at 10:29 pm
Hi Pjazzypar,
Very well said. And we’ve found many intriguing ways to achieve it, I think.
Hi Sandy,
Quite probably, but what a psychological journey.
April 2, 2008 at 10:35 pm
Love #8! It’s so true! And I liked #3 because, as undead creatures go, zombies are my favorite. I know the blogosphere is filled with vampire fans, but zombies manage to be funny and scary at the same time. Great, and highly original post. (Thanks for visiting my TT)
April 2, 2008 at 10:51 pm
Hi The Gal Herself,
Thanks for that. I’ve written about vampires plenty of times, and the zombies were getting jealous. Don’t want them creeping around, after all
April 2, 2008 at 10:53 pm
Huh?
(sorry couldn’t resist after you didn’t know who Steve Guttenberg was…
As one who has practiced mediumship and studied Spiritualism, I find the subject of death fascinating.
Thanks for dropping by my TT-13.
Smiles,
Holly
http://theabundanceplace.com
April 2, 2008 at 10:57 pm
Hi Holly,
I did really. Yes, it is a fascinating subject. It’s held my interest for over 20 years, including some research of mediums.
April 2, 2008 at 11:10 pm
I must say, I have always thought of Pascal’s Wager as utterly immoral. I suspect that it was fear of death that led to the invention of religion.
April 2, 2008 at 11:17 pm
Hi Nicholas,
But math is a little immoral, I think - or at least, amoral. I’m not sure whether it was fear of death, or clever controllers putting fear into what lay beyond death, that began society-based religion.
The previous animism was, I think, more nature based intuition. But an interesting subject of study.
April 2, 2008 at 11:19 pm
Death is a fact of life. Happy TT.
April 2, 2008 at 11:23 pm
Hi Pussreboots,
Very true. Along with taxes, as they say.
April 2, 2008 at 11:33 pm
I think how people handle death says something about them.
SJR
The Pink Flamingo
April 2, 2008 at 11:39 pm
Interesting TT — I think the Pink Flamingo said it all: how people relate to death does say something about them.
April 3, 2008 at 12:04 am
Now that’s an interesting TT! I think we all handle death as we do all things - the best we can. Each death catches us in a moment in our lives. Sometimes it all makes sense, and other times it’s a wicked ripping that pulls from the heart. Having seen a bunch of people die, I know this is true for the dying as well as the living.
Happy TT!
April 3, 2008 at 2:15 am
Very interesting post. I believe that death is not final and it gives me comfort when love one die.
April 3, 2008 at 2:24 am
Very interesting post. I don’t believe death is the end…I think it is the beginning of a new adventure.
April 3, 2008 at 5:43 am
Oooh! I loved this TT! But then again, I’ve worked at a mortuary/cemetery for 9 years. LOL
April 3, 2008 at 6:14 am
I could never have myself frozen like that. The whole question of “what if you’re still conscious but then locked in your body” is just too unbearable to contemplate.
April 3, 2008 at 8:00 am
hi… this is a very interesting post…I think people having different culture have also different belief in the concept of death.Like we Filipinos, we believed that our died love ones go to heaven in the 40 days.From the day that our loved ones died until the 40 days, we believed that he/she stay in purgatory wherein they make repentance to his/her sins done while they are still alive.I think one also factor is our religion that affect this belief.
Some people do believed in reincarnation, that their loved one go back in to the earth or reincarnate as animals, plants, butterfly and other forms.
April 3, 2008 at 8:00 am
Goog morning SJ Reidhead,
Indeed, views of death often define the person in life.
Hi Lara,
In Medieval times, life was a prelude to afterlife, so people were reserved. Today, with atheism, people live only in the material world. Life is for living, ‘cos it’s all there is.
Hi On a Limb With Claudia,
This is so true. I’ve dealt with a lot of friends and family dying during my life.
Hi Lazy Daisy,
My wife is a practising Christian, and she seems to have no fear of death, for it is continuance. I can see how, to many, it gives comfort.
Hi Journeywoman,
One thing is for certain. No scientist or sceptic can absolutely tell you you’re wrong.
Hi Winter,
Thanks for that. You’re in a profession where it is seen always. I suppose you come to an understanding pretty soon in such jobs.
Hi Robin,
Many share this view, same as many would not contemplate being buried, in case they are not dead.
April 3, 2008 at 8:03 am
Hi Rhosie,
I’m often amazed by the variety of religious beliefs concerning afterlife, but often, if you strip away the local culture, you find amazingly similar fundamental aspects to the beliefs, as if they are universal in some deeper way.
April 3, 2008 at 8:46 am
Death is such a botheration in everyday LIFE.. I mean.. if it happens.. I am sure it affects others more than it affects the one who is dead..
April 3, 2008 at 9:42 am
Hi Rajeevsrajan,
This is so true. An important point you’ve raised there.
April 3, 2008 at 11:51 am
Hey, Anthony. For a change, you’ve got me thinking. You’re raising really good questions here about something I, too, have noticed in terms of the difference of death in many religions and phenomenon like fainting and ghosts. I do think about this stuff but I’m not nearly as articulate as you — and I have no ability to reach answers. I’m not sure I want to.
April 3, 2008 at 12:09 pm
Interesting post, but difficult to give an answer as I am still alive and didn’t die yet. But if I die I will write you where I am, lol ! Personally I would like to come back as a cat in my household !
April 3, 2008 at 12:47 pm
Very interesting list. I work for a Hospice company so I can understand and relate. Happy TT and thanks for stopping by
April 3, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Hi Susan,
The unexplained is my main area of non-fiction. If you ever want to look deeper, click my MYSTERIES page at top of site. You’ll find essay after essay on the subject.
Hi Gattina,
I won’t look forward to hearing from you. First, ‘cos I hope you live a long time, and second … well, I think you can work it out
Hi Lori,
Thanks for that. You remind us of the serious side of all this. An important point to remember.
April 3, 2008 at 2:51 pm
Great TT list! So creative and strangely enough, educational too
April 3, 2008 at 2:52 pm
Hi Jennifer,
Thanks for that. A writer could ask for nothing more.
April 3, 2008 at 7:50 pm
You two think too hard…get over it…
April 3, 2008 at 8:04 pm
Hi Frodo,
Well, I’d like to thank you two for that.
April 3, 2008 at 10:03 pm
What a great article! I always become anxious when i read anything about death, but this article was written in a way that resistance never got a chance to rise.
“1. Maybe death is a thing about the individual”
This is my reality tunnel at the moment. Like Eckhart Tolle eloquently puts it, the story of me is temporary, the observer of all this is
April 3, 2008 at 10:08 pm
the Zoroastrians place the bodies of their dead on the temple heights and let the birds eat them. I love that.
April 3, 2008 at 10:13 pm
Hi Andy,
Thanks for that. Tolle is a great believer in living in the ‘now’. Good advice. As for anxiety about death itself, I, for one, have none. It’s the bits leading up to it that scare the hell out of me.
April 3, 2008 at 10:16 pm
Hi Nancy,
That’s a good point. Usefulness of the body after death.
April 3, 2008 at 11:39 pm
I think the craze for cosmetic (I won’t use the words ‘Plastic Surgery’ because what the latter does is valuable reconstructive work, cosmetic docs pander to vanity) surgery comes ultimately from a fear of death in our Western culture. We don’t embrace death, we’re so afraid that some try to “stay young” - because they don’t want to reminded of their own mortality! When you see the wrinkles you may think, subconsciously, that you’re a day closer to dying. And if you’re a material sop then you may not believe that death is just a beginning of a new, amazing existence.
April 4, 2008 at 12:19 am
Wow, interesting list. Definitely something we all have to face and accept.
April 4, 2008 at 12:24 am
Loooove your list. So thought provoking and all things I agree with. it’s wonderful to read; just love it.
April 4, 2008 at 1:45 am
i think in time we all gonna faced what so called death…For where and when we don’t know..But i think we shouldn’t fear of death because it is inevitable to us human.I agree to you, whatever our culture or beliefs, i think death will caused the same factor to those people who will be left behind.
Thanks
April 4, 2008 at 3:21 am
I am thankful that I believe when I die I will go to Heaven and be able to see my loved ones who have passed on before me. Otherwise it would be a pretty scary thought to me.
April 4, 2008 at 8:54 am
Good morning Sue,
I’d pretty much agree with you there, although I took the materialism of it all a little deeper here:
Celebrity Creations
Hi Nicole,
Thanks for that. Yes, it’s fairly inevitable.
Hi Sarah,
Many thanks for that. Your comment is much appreciated.
Hi Rhosie,
Yes, death has most impact on the living, most of the time.
Hi Melanie,
Although I don’t accept a definite form of afterlife myself, I understand, and value, that it is a remarkable concept to believe in, and would never try to dissuade someone from this.
April 4, 2008 at 12:34 pm
Death, it sounds nice, as whatever we face in this life, something taht good to us might be bad for other people,
…..
This’s the unique of this life, maybe ~ ~
Thx for the post
April 4, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Hi Chris,
That’s certainly one way of looking at it. Thanks for the comment.
April 5, 2008 at 5:56 pm
Very interesting article. I have no idea what happens after death. Like most people I hope for the best and that there is a continuation but I wonder if that is true or if it is the ego speaking. However, I have no fear of death but like Woody Allen “I would just prefer not to be there when it happens/
April 5, 2008 at 8:35 pm
Hi Judith,
Woody is no fool. And despite what ideas are put out, we’ll all find out one way or another - when we can’t tell.
April 6, 2008 at 12:24 pm
When we lose our loved ones, it could be never understood….
April 6, 2008 at 12:31 pm
Hi A.Ho,
As someone who has seen many loved ones die over my life, I can only agree - at the emotional level. But to search for answers is what we do.
April 8, 2008 at 12:05 pm
Very well done, thanks.
I have always thought that heavy drugs are a sort of “pre-death” experience.
April 8, 2008 at 2:56 pm
Hi Fullbodytransplant,
Thanks for that. Drugs are certainly a definite experience - and usually not for the good - that’s for sure.
April 17, 2008 at 5:19 pm
I WORK DAILY WITH THE DYING AND ONE THING I HAVE NOTICED IS THAT PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIVED A REASONABLEY GOOD STABLE LOVING LIFE PASS EASILEY. THE SADEST CASES ARE OUR WAR VETS WHEN THEIR TIME COMES… THEY CLING TO LIFE WITH FEAR IN THEIR EYES… WE TRY TO COMFORT THEM AS BEST POSSIBLE WITH ACTS OF KINDNESS AND RESPECT…. WATCHING MY GRNDFATHER PASS THIS WAY WAS THE HARDEST EXPERIENCE I EVER HAD TO DEAL WITH….. WORKING IN THIS FEILD I HAVE OBSERVED MANY THINGS AND SOMETHINGS CONCERNING THIS TOPIC CAN NOT BE EXPLAINED SCIENTIFICALEY OR SPIRITUALEY……. I GUESS I WILL KNOW WHEN MY TIME COMES….
April 17, 2008 at 5:40 pm
Hi Glenda,
You do great and important work there. And it is true. We can never know, until our time comes.