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TT #11 - HOW TO FIND ATLANTIS

Posted by anthonynorth on May 14, 2008

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INTRODUCTION

Welcome to my Thursday Thirteen #11. For many years I’ve been researching many mysteries, one of them being Atlantis. Hence, this week I thought I’d dedicate this post to trying to rationalise the subject. Hopefully it will give you food for thought, and make you decide I’m not a total crackpot.
I’ve also included pieces from the writers’ prompt, Three word Wednesday, in this post. By doing so, I hope to offer a little variation. I hope you enjoy reading it.

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13. Many researchers feel the genesis of Atlantis comes from the eruption of Thera in the 2nd millennium BC. A huge disaster, part of the island sank, and there is evidence it wiped out the seafaring Minoan civilization on Crete.

12. Plato first wrote about Atlantis, and many feel his assertion that it was ‘beyond the Pillars of Hercules’ places it in the Atlantic. The ‘pillars’ are the Straits of Gibraltar. However, many miss the fact that the Atlantic was mysterious at the time, and Plato could have used ‘mysterious’ as a metaphor.

11. Atlantis serves a purpose in human advancement. Whenever it is popular, you usually find it is at a time of social or political change. Philosophers have always used it as a metaphor for the perfect society being considered at the time.

10. This could be what Plato had in mind. His philosophy revolved around the idea of the ‘ideal form’ to everything, and the idea of the perfect republic. Hence, the Atlantis myth is a perfect metaphor of what he hoped to achieve in his philosophy.

9. This is hinted at with his Royal City of Atlantis. An island with a temple at its centre, and surrounded by a number of circular canals, with a tunnel going from its border to its centre, if you draw a plan of the city, you are actually drawing a perfect seven ringed mandala – a symbol for reaching higher consciousness.

8. Some researchers believe the pyramids, being similar in many parts of the world, were built by the survivors of Atlantis. How else do we explain their universality? Easy. All tribal societies represented nature with fertility, building earth mounds to represent the ‘womb’ of the Earth. As mathematics came into being, the pyramid is a natural extension of the mound. The universality is in human psychology.

7. Various ‘structures’ under the water close to coastlines have been thought of as belonging to Atlantis. Others say they are natural formations. But what if they are natural formations partially sculpted into early temples? Could this give a hint of the reality of a lost civilization in prehistory?

6. Humans almost certainly populated the Earth in stages, moving out from their natural habitat in Africa. The ‘Out of Africa’ hypothesis places this mass movement in stages between 55,000 and 15,000 years ago.

5. How was this done without boats? No matter how you look at it, there were times when they would have had to cross large expanses of water. It is highly likely that there were rudimentary, ocean-going boats tens of thousands of years ago.

4. Once built, it is ridiculous to imagine these boats being abandoned. Rather, I would argue a ‘fisheries revolution’ occurred in many parts of the world in deep prehistory. With static ports, social and technological evolution would occur, making them seem like ‘gods’ to the Stone Age inlanders.

3. Between 12,000 to 8,000 years ago, the end of the last ice age raised water levels, swamping most coastal areas worldwide. The above civilization would have been wiped out, its rudimentary cities buried below the coastal silt, only its rudimentary temples remaining.

2. Survivors of this civilization would have moved inland, and being more advanced, would have been responsible for kick-starting the known ‘agricultural revolution’. They are known throughout the world through the Hero myths, of strangers coming along following a great flood and bringing knowledge and agriculture.

1. Of course, the above is speculative, but I suggest it is totally rational. And it speaks of a possible global cosmopolitan civilisation in our deep past, remembered, today, only through myths of gods.

© Anthony North, May 2008

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A GOTHIC ROMANCE - Fiction

To be a Goth is the most satisfying thing in the world. Oh, I remember when I first moved into the Goth scene in the early 1980s. Their parties were better than the average parties; their dress, black, chained, dark black around the eyes, post-punk.
It began in the UK, spread to so many other countries, and is still alive and well today, even though it was dismissed as a fad – something that would soon be scratched out.

Well, as I entered the party, it was clear the critics were wrong.

The music was loud, heavy, chaotic, and in no time at all I existed in a swirling mass of bodies. Many of the girls I had been with before, and they simply gave me blank stares, emotionless.
It wasn’t that I was too exuberant, or anything like that. Just … well, you know.
But it was a new girl I spotted tonight – late teens, vibrant, just finding her feet in the Goth culture.
It took no time at all to woo her – kiss her on the neck. After all, I’d had a reputation for some time. And it was inevitable we’d end up at my place, where we …
Well, a gentleman never tells. But as I took one last look at the corpse and closed my lid, I knew she’d be as everlasting as my Goth culture, come tomorrow.

© Anthony North, May 2008

SCRATCH IT

I want to scratch it, it’s a bitch,
you’ve no idea how much I itch;
It’s gone on for day, the infernal thing,
so bad at times it starts to sting;
It isn’t your average annoying stigma,
but it certainly is one big enigma;
My finger works, trying to ease it quick,
causing effects that, frankly, would make you sick;
Where is it? I hear you, pray,
below my neck is all I’ll say;
Other than that I’m telling you,
you’d scratch it yourself,
if you only knew

(c) Anthony North, May 2008

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AN AVERAGE ESSAY

I keep hearing about this thing called average. It gets everywhere. It can be used to describe people, things, thoughts, lifestyles, events. You name it, it can be infected by this thing called average.
It gets annoying at times – you know, something you’d like to scratch out of your life. But escape from the average is quite impossible. Everyone talks about it, and even laws and rules are based upon it.

Only thing is, as soon as you try to find it, it disappears.

It simply does not exist in your neck of the woods. Which is maybe the most important thing we can say about average.
Average is an ‘ideal’, designed to provide a rough guide to planners, thinkers, statisticians, politicians, etc, in order for them to make policy decisions about us. Or at least, that’s what I used to think
Today, we live in a mass media world, where images constantly bombard the younger generations. And the more the media grows, the more I see people wearing identical clothes, speaking in identical slang, dancing in identical ways, and having identical expressions, ways and thoughts.
Maybe the curse of the average was not simply an ideal, but a growing control mechanism. It’s rather strange that, as we celebrate the individual today, the average is becoming a reality.

© Anthony North, May 2008

55 Responses to “TT #11 - HOW TO FIND ATLANTIS”

  1. gautami tripathy Says:

    I prefer gothic romance to anything else. Now there is no rromance, only porn..

    lost to taxes

  2. whypaisley Says:

    you must be a trip at word association… you mind just keeps right on forging ahead!!!!!

  3. anthonynorth Says:

    Hi Gautami,
    Very true. Nothing to stir the imagination any more.

    Hi Paisley,
    Thanks for that. Yes, a word can usually stimulate something - a story, poem or essay.

  4. pia Says:

    Don’t know where to start :) Never thought of post punk as goth but post punk being the precursor to goth–a whole other generation that I know I would have been a part of–dressed it normally as I liked combat boots or doc martens with long dresses for work

  5. Twilight(Ann) Says:

    Phew, AN! I’m a bit short of time (hairdresser appointment) so I clicked on your blog, scrolled past Atlantis, because we’ve spoken about that before, as I recall, and alighted at the bold line, “Well, as I entered….” read on and….Oh my!

    I then retreated to a few lines upward and gave a sigh of relief. I’d thought you were relating a personal experience…. ;-)

  6. anthonynorth Says:

    Hi Pia,
    Yes, I maybe didn’t write that right. I meant it to come out as following on from post-punk. They’re certainly snazzy dressers, though.

    Hi Twilight,
    Oh dear, that would have been like Orsen Welles’ radio rendition of War of the Worlds all over again :-)
    Did those aliens invade America that night.

  7. pussreboots Says:

    Makes me want to read Atlantis Found by Clive Cussler. Happy TT.

  8. Brian Says:

    I love your short stories. :)

    Btw Atlantis has been found in the Bahamas. :)

  9. anthonynorth Says:

    Hi Pussreboots,
    I’ve read a couple of novels by Clive Cussler. He’s good.

    Hi Brian,
    You’re too kind. But do you love them as much as I love writing them? :-)
    Ah, the Bimini Road, no doubt. I’ve heard it’s made of polystyrene.

  10. Linda - Practically Says:

    Nice use of prompts! ;-)

    Blessings,
    Linda
    Nickers and Ink

    SIMPLY SNICKERS – weekly poetry prompts

  11. anthonynorth Says:

    Hi Linda,
    Thanks for that. Glad you liked them.

  12. Hootin' Anni Says:

    It’s one very interesting subject…Atlantis!! I watch all the PBS and Nova and Nat. Geo programs I can on this.

    My T-13 is shared. Drop by and help me list MORE!

  13. anthonynorth Says:

    Hi Hootin Anni,
    It is interesting. Been fascinated by it for years.

  14. Melanie Says:

    Atlantis is a very fascinating subject. Such an interesting post!

  15. anthonynorth Says:

    Hi Melanie,
    Thanks for that.

  16. Sue Says:

    Atlantis has sure captured the thoughts and imaginations of generations! It is a fascinating topic :) Happy TT

  17. Just someone Says:

    Nice take on the prompt - creative :)

  18. anthonynorth Says:

    Hi Sue,
    I understand there’s been over 2,000 books written on the subject.

    Hi Just Someone,
    Thanks for that. Glad you liked it.

  19. Nicole Austin Says:

    Atlantis is a great subject for speculation. There are just so many possibilities. I do like the idea of the surviving people moving inland and sharing their agricultural knowledge. Very thought provoking!

  20. Michelle Says:

    Very interesting TT. I’ve always been interested in Atlantis. I’m actually waiting on a movie from Net Flix regarding the topic. Happy TT!!

  21. Susan Helene Gottfried Says:

    Interesting theory about Atlantis, Anthony. And I like the Goth story.

  22. opengroveclaudia Says:

    I do love these kinds of mysteries. When you sit down and really talk to people? Most people have experienced something we consider “fiction” or “fantasy”. The question then becomes why we don’t all believe. :)

    Happy TT!

  23. SandyCarlson Says:

    Your Atlantis info is compelling. It speaks to my imagination, which is satisfaction enough!

  24. Angelle Says:

    I love the gothic tone in novels, but I personally find it very hard to achieve.

    My Thursday Thirteen is up. 13 things I learned about Japanese motorcycle gangs ;) Ah the joy of ex-pat life~

  25. mariacristina Says:

    This is in response to your poem, “Scratch it.”

    I love the humor! It’s great to have a break from angst once in a while. :)

  26. Lori Says:

    Wow…very cool stuff. Happy TT.

  27. Kilroy_60 Says:

    GREAT stuff. A big thumbs up on StumbleUpon.

    Do you ever do blog carnivals? I can use a good host for a portion of my next Soup To Nuts progressive dinner.

    Drop on by for a look, eh, and let me know what you think.

    Cheers!

  28. God Says:

    WAAAY DOOWWNNN, Below the ocean…wheeeerrre, I wanna be, she may be….

    I hate Atlantis (still, eons after smiting it) and I hate goths….

    GREAT POST!

  29. Selma Says:

    That poor woman. Thought she had found a nice, handsome Gothic gentleman and look what happened. Ouch! Your itch poem hit the spot nicely. You always make me smile.

  30. anthonynorth Says:

    Good morning Nicole,
    Thanks for that. I’m a great believer that a bit of rationality can be placed on most mysteries. Although the wild theories can often be intriguing, too.

    Hi Michelle,
    Many thanks. You can always guarantee there’ll be some media outlet coming up on the subject.

    Hi Susan,
    Thanks for that. I do love my theories. And my flash fiction, of course :-)

    Hi Opengroveclaudia,
    Why don’t people believe? Well, I think it boils down to fear of the unknown - in both the layman and, increasingly, science itself fears such fringe mysteries could overturn their view of the world.

    Hi Sandy,
    Many thanks. Too often we forget the importance of our imagination. Yet it is what drives humanity on.

  31. anthonynorth Says:

    Hi Angelle,
    Yes, writers tend to have specific styles of writing, but I find if you want to try to grasp other styles, such as the Gothic, then you must write in the first person, and try to literally allow a Gothic character to ‘occupy’ you.

    Hi Mariacristina,
    Thanks for that. I couldn’t agree more. Yes, poetry is a serious business, but I’m a great believer in balance, and poetry needs much more humour at times to redress it.

    Hi Lori,
    Thanks for that. Much appreciated.

    Hi Kilroy_60,
    I’ll do that. Thanks for the comment.

    Hi God,
    A compliment! Many thanks. I guess you’re not smiting ME yet, then :-)

    Hi Selma,
    And so do you with your kind comments :-)
    But you really mustn’t be feeling sorry for the poor girl. She’s a character, and if they dare to enter my stories, what else can they expect?!!

  32. Tink Says:

    I very much enjoyed reading about Atlantis; it has my interest for sure.
    Thanks for visiting my 80’s TT!

  33. anthonynorth Says:

    Hi Tink,
    Thanks for that. It’s a fascinating subject.

  34. Lori Says:

    Wow, you know your “Atlantis” material, don’tcha? Lots of great food for thought. Thanks

  35. anthonynorth Says:

    Hi Lori,
    Thanks for that. Yes, I’ve spent years researching mysteries like this. They’ve always fascinated me.

  36. ET Says:

    Nice wrotong style and very balanced presentation,Tony. Me thinks, there might be more to the Atlantis story. Smiles. ET

  37. anthonynorth Says:

    Hi ET,
    Thanks for that. Yes, I’ve always thought there was - once you take out the ‘way out’ theories.

  38. Judi Says:

    Your posts are always to interesting. I always come away with another way of seeing things.

  39. anthonynorth Says:

    Hi Judi,
    Thanks for that. It makes it all worthwhile.

  40. texasblu Says:

    You poem is cute - I like the hint at more but could be innocent too… letting the mind take itself where it wants to. Nice! :)

  41. anthonynorth Says:

    Hi Texasblu,
    Thanks for that. Yes, ambiguity - not quite saying everything - can be the most rewarding at times.

  42. Ivanhoe Says:

    I always believed in Atlantis. It’s outhere, mystical, higher inteligence … submerged, hidden from our eyes. At least in my opinion. Have a great day, Anthony!

  43. Aaron Says:

    This is a cool list. I prefer the Atlantis you get to via the Stargate. ;-)

  44. The Gal Herself Says:

    I want more about the “fisheries revolution!” Do you think that Atlantis had its own patriots and heroes? (Thanks for visiting my TT)

  45. anthonynorth Says:

    Hi Ivanhoe,
    Ah, now you’re talking about a different interpretation there, the idea of deeper mystical states of being. And I cannot disagree with you there.

    Hi Aaron,
    Thanks for that. Well, could Plato have written the first Sci Fi story with Atlantis, I wonder?

    Hi The Gal Herself,
    Now, I wouldn’t know about that. Not unless we find their literature.

  46. Winter Says:

    #11 made me wonder if it’s time for another round of cool Atlantis related stuff. I mean, the world is just whacked these days with earthquakes, cyclones, horrid presidential races, and the price of gas along with about another dozen things I can think off off the top of my head. I’m gonna keep an eye out to see if Atlantis is making a comeback this year.

  47. anthonynorth Says:

    Hi Winter,
    Quite possibly it will - along with much more esoteric stuff. When things are going right, and we’re affluent, we don’t think about things much. But when a downturn comes, we tend to ask more questions, and search for answers. This usually causes a rise in popularity of many ‘fringe’ subjects.

  48. storyteller Says:

    Thanks for visiting my T-13 at Small Reflections. I’m playing catch-up today. Yours has an intriguingly thought-provoking topic as usual. I enjoyed your poetry and ‘Average Essay’ too ;– ;)
    Hugs and blessings,

  49. anthonynorth Says:

    Hi Storyteller,
    Thanks for that. Glad you liked them.

  50. Tammy Says:

    I’ve skipped over your 3WW in all the chaos but I am delighted I returned. I’m always amazed at hoe much you can do with 3 simple words. I finally tried flash fiction on this 3WW and loved it.

    Happy Anniversary!

  51. anthonynorth Says:

    Hi Tammy,
    Thanks for the best wishes. Yes, flash fiction is very satisfying to write.

  52. TC Says:

    So, I expected the ending to that gothic romance… and yet it still tripped me up and gave me chills. Go figure.

  53. anthonynorth Says:

    Hi TC,
    I’m so glad it still had a power at the end, even when the twist was guessed.

  54. san Says:

    haha@!! quite brilliant!!! :)

  55. AnthonyNorth Says:

    Hi San,
    Thanks for that. Glad you liked it.

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