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TT #15 – HOW TO BE MORAL (?) & MORE

Posted by anthonynorth on July 30, 2008

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13. Morality can be a dangerous word nowadays. The subject is concerned with what is right or wrong, or the goodness or badness of character or behaviour. As an intellectual subject, it is known as ethics.
12. Today, I’m dipping my mind into the moral maze, offering my basic views on the subject. Agree or disagree, vital to a moral outlook is the importance of debate and the right of any individual to offer their views.

11. I’ll begin with one important aspect often not appreciated.

Morality invariably involves more than one person – one to do and one to judge. After all, can every one of us say that when we’re on our own our behavioural standards are as high as if we were not?
10. Morality, to many, is religion based. Rules are definite, and breaking them risks Divine Retribution. This is a clear cut moral approach. But things changed with the decline of popular religion.

9. In a more secular world, ethics moved to the philosopher.

This involved personal reasoning, the outcome being that definite rules could not be guaranteed. To many, this was the beginning of a moral free-for-all.
8. Morality often becomes as one with an ideology. In the Industrial Revolution, for instance, laziness was immoral, thus requiring absolute industriousness from people. In all cases, I think this is wrong. It should be the arena for scripture or the philosopher. In other words, people who have influence, but not power. For morality should never be used as a political tool.

7. Many people believe that the modern liberal ideal of morality is correct.

It is proven by the general good order of society. I’d argue that this is not the case. Good order occurs because services are such that people do not have to strive to be ordered. Should those services fail, I think we could quickly revert to barbarism.
6. One central moral problem is separation. By this, I mean the failure to separate non-consensual physical acts against the person, society, or property thereof (criminality) from lifestyle. Whilst punishment can be variable, I think attitude towards transgression should be absolute. A crime must be a crime, regardless of the reason.

5. Lifestyle is different.

Nature flourishes because of total diversity. Whatever can be done is done. Hence, society can best flourish by following this same principle. What is done by consenting adults is no one’s business but their own.
4. There is one proviso to this. Any society reaches a ‘norm’ of behaviour. This is essential for order and manners. Hence, total diversity of behaviour is something to do in private, or clearly accepted public arenas. In the general public, I feel people should always moderate their behaviour.
3. This is an important point. All too often, morality concerning lifestyle is not morality at all. Rather, it is the furtherance of sensationalism. This is supposed to get a message across concerning lifestyle, but most of the time it is simply about exhibitionism.
2. One other important aspect of ethics is this. People will always transgress, and this is how it should be. Because if being moral is seen as easy, then our standards are not high enough.
1. Today, morality is moving in many new directions. Human rights verses the nation state; the morality of science; our moral responsibility towards the planet. It is a subject that I will no doubt return to in the future.

© Anthony North, July 2008

THAT’S FUNNY

Knock, knock, who’s there; I say, I say, I say,
this is a fun verse – do you want to play?
What do you get if … ? Well, you know how it goes,
sometimes the joke is corny; get’s right up your nose;
slap stick, stand up, so many types of fun,
clowns fire streamers from their big toy gun;
From stage or screen or big top, laughter rings out,
as tomfoolery goes on forever; ‘he’s behind you!’ we shout;
A serious business is comedy, you certainly can’t deny,
it offers us a choice to laugh, or give in and cry

(c) Anthony North, July 2008

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A LIFE OF CRIME – Fiction

Crime is what I’m involved with – it’s as simple as that. This last twenty years it has been my life. But how did I get into it?
Well, in my early adulthood I was at a loose end, not sure what I wanted to do. Everything seemed a gamble, and when ever I tried something new, it turned out only to be temporary. Maybe I was destined to be a drifter, but there wasn’t much purpose in that.
Eventually I met Cat Man Craig, or Cat for short. He was, well, a burglar, and damned good at it, too. No matter how secure a householder thought his house was, Cat knew they’d omitted something, and he always found it.
So, I got to talking with him – spoke about the ‘buzz’ that I wanted in my life – and he agreed to take me on the job he was planning.
I must admit, as we gained entry, and searched the darkened rooms, I had the buzz. And as we finished the job and Cat went home, I knew, from that moment on, this was the life for me. Sadly, though, as I took the police straight to his stash, it was the end for Cat.
I enrolled the next day – made detective in no time at all …
Yep, crime is what I’m involved with – it’s as simple as that.

© Anthony North, July 2008

57 Responses to “TT #15 – HOW TO BE MORAL (?) & MORE”

  1. Hi Anthony,

    A lot to ponder all at once and I must think carefully about a response.

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    All done. :D

    You are spot on my dear chap. Morality is varied and depends on the observer more than the observed. What is normal for one person is offensive for another. To our detriment Government and Religion have always sought to legislate morality when the institutions themselves follow no code of ethics. They pretend of course, but when caught out, denial is the only constant.

  2. Now don’t start me about morality. I wouldn’t know here to stop!

    http://firmlyrooted.blogspot.com/2008/07/creativity.html

  3. Hi Rose,
    Too true! As I say, I think it right to be good mannered with the general public and moderate behaviour, but I’m always reminded of the strict Victorian morality – and the fact that London had more brothels than anywhere else on the planet!
    Perhaps the greatest immorality is hypocrisy ;-)

    Hi Gautami,
    Please, feel free :-)

  4. Morality means something different to almost everyone. You’ve done a fine job or breaking it down. Bravo.

    I love your story. My career involved the same thing and on the same side of the fence as well. Have a great day Anthony. :)

  5. Hi Sandee,
    Thanks for that. I think a lot of people go wrong with morality by not separating crime from lifestyle. They think that if morality is eased regarding the latter, it becomes a free-for-all regarding crime. But this need not be the case.

  6. TC said

    I liked the fact that your guy was the “good” guy for once in your fiction story. You always throw me for a loop… nicely done.

  7. Hi TC,
    Thanks for that. It IS unusual because they can tend to be more boring than a villain ;-)

  8. Brian said

    Great post, are you standing for the next by-election? Probably too honest. :)

    Do you think Dewy will let me go along to China? :lol:

  9. Hi Brian,
    Somehow, I can’t see myself as a politician.
    As for Dewy taking you to China, I think it’s a strong possibility ;-)

  10. john ryan said

    It’s one thing when the ‘moralists’ tell me how I should act; this I can accept within the scope of a community. But when they tell me how I should ‘Think’, now that’s another matter. Thanks, Anthony.

  11. Hi John,
    Thanks for that. Luckily they haven’t worked out how to CHECK what you’re thinking. But it’s coming ;-)

  12. Patience, empathy and the ability to listen also helps. Happy TT.

  13. Joyce said

    Such a short story – Life of Crime – but you surprised me! Well done!

  14. Hi Pussreboots,
    A very good point. Thanks for that.

    Hi Joyce,
    Many thanks. Glad you liked it.

  15. I don’t know which is worse, a lack of personal morality and standards are a lack of manners. I’m on a big manners binge lately. Good post.

    SJR
    The Pink Flamingo

  16. Hi SJ,
    Yes, it’s a moral maze, alright. And there’s certainly nothing wrong with manners.

  17. Diana M said

    That sure gives you alot to think about…Thank you for sharing.

  18. Hi Diana M,
    Thanks for that. I love to make people think ;-)

  19. Tink said

    Wow, that’s a TT that hets me thinking; I like those! I have my morality, I don’t like others to tell me what that should be…
    Thanks for visiting my TT!

  20. Hi Tink,
    A view shared by many ;-)
    Thanks for the comment.

  21. This is all so fascinating. And deep for thought. Excellent.

    My 13 is posted…drop by and have a laugh or two! Won’t you?

  22. Hi Hootin’ Anni,
    Many thanks. I’m pleased you liked it.

  23. paisley said

    one to do and one to judge

    this tiny phrase is key… morals is all about judging.. and that is where the problem is.. every situation needs to be decided upon in its own light,, no two people or loves or opportunities are the same and cannot be lumped together and decided upon…

    i can always count on you to strike the nail squarely on the head!!

  24. Hi Paisley,
    Thanks for that. And you put it exactly right yourself.

  25. The morality of a certain action is really dependent on the beliefs and values of those involved. It’s an interesting subject that seems to constantly evolve. great post!

  26. Hi Nicole,
    Yes, morality has never, really, been constant. It is forever changing. And perhaps a good thing, too.
    Thanks for the kind words.

  27. Chelle Y. said

    I always thought “morality” was just the difference between right or wrong, like you posted in #1. There was a very interesting and insightful list.

  28. Hi Chelle Y,
    Thanks for that. I suppose, in the end, morality is limited only by what we can think of.

  29. nice entry…hope you can drop by… Have a great day ahead!

  30. It’s a very interesting topic, Anthony. You’re right so many people find their moral code outside of themselves. I think morality is felt, more than known. Inside, we know what is right – doesn’t mean we do it… ;)

    Well done! Happy TT

  31. pieceofpie said

    oh my… morality has two sides.. you are so right… shall we place a mirror to see whose right… great stuff!!!

  32. pjazzypar said

    Morality is a funny thing, what is perfectly moral to me is utterly immoral to another. Good points to ponder.

  33. It just can’t be legislated, can it? And yet, they don’t give up trying to box us. Highly immoral action, I think! Pots and kettles and the black of sin. Great post, as usual.

  34. Julie said

    True morality is doing right when nobody is watching….or so I hear. Great thoughts.

  35. pia said

    I love that last comment about doing right when nobody is watching. I think it’s much harder yet much more satisfying to take religion out of the ethics/moral quandary. Fascinating as always Anthony

  36. You’re so right, Anthony! Morality and politics make for impossible bedfellows. Morality and decency–respect for each other and each other’s privacy–is more like it.

  37. well now that is what could truly be called a moral dilemma

  38. Chris said

    Hi Anthony,
    This post takes me back to your “Tony on Theft” post as well.
    “Now, I do not accept that poverty and crime are linked.”
    “A crime must be a crime, regardless of the reason.”

    My question here is, if a parent ’steals a loaf of bread’ to feed a starving child, is it a ‘crime’ to save the child’s life?
    The physical act of theft itself is a crime, but is it a crime at an individual level or a societal level or both? Is ‘consolidated society’ ultimately responsible because it lacks the morals (ethical standards) to implement programmes which ensure that the child does not starve?

    “Morailty, to many,is religion based.” In other words, “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you”, or alternatively, treat others (people and nature) in the way that you like to be treated yourself. I think that this is an excellent philosophy, the only problem is that when applying this to an ‘unwell’ person such as a masochist they may, in effect, become a sadist. I guess that the real question here is, is it appropriate to apply our moral code to an ‘unwell’ person?
    As has been stated above, I think that ‘genuine’ morality comes from within and that ‘artificial’ morality is imposed from without by external factors (ideologies).

  39. Selma said

    Sometimes I feel like I’m stumbling around blindly in a moral wasteland. What an insightful piece. I agree with you about how quickly we could revert to barbarism. Perish the thought.

    Your ‘That’s Funny’ piece reminded me of the Christmas pantomimes I used to attend as a child.
    Guy 1. I say, I say, I say – my dog has no nose
    Guy 2, Your dog has no nose? How does he smell?
    Guy 1. Bloomin’ orrible.

    Those were the days!

  40. Good mornig Prettylifeonline,
    Thanks for that.

    Hi On a Limb With Claudia,
    That is so true. Which is what I mean about morality never being easy – and shouldn’t be!

    Hi Pieceofpie,
    I don’t trust mirrors any more. They lie about my ageing, so why should I believe them on this :-)

    Hi Pjazzypar,
    Many thanks. And your words are very true.

    Hi Tumblewords,
    Thanks for that. Yes, morality has forever been a political tool. And it’s always wrong.

    Hi Julie,
    It is indeed. Which is why it’s damned near impossible ;-)

  41. Hi Pia,
    Yes, that was a good comment. Of course, I have no problem with people who live a good, moral life due to their religion – as long as they realise they cannot force that lifestyle on others, and vice versa.

    Hi Sandy,
    Many thanks. And you put it perfectly.

    Hi Marcia,
    Very true. Infact, if morality wasn’t a dilemma, it wouldn’t be hard enough, and we’d all be amoral.

    Hi Chris,
    You raise some excellent points as always. Unfairness in society was, for a short time, dealt with through the vote, demanding action from our politicians. Mindst you, this was at a time when they had social consciences rather than career hopes, and they weren’t dictated to by Big Biz.
    As lifestyle morality becomes more diverse, I think it is important to be more absolute concerning crime, otherwise there is ’slippage’ here. As such a crime IS a crime, regardless of the reason. But the fairness should come in treatment following, regarding punishment, rehabilitation or assistance.
    I covered a new form of sentencing a while ago. You may find it interesting:

    http://beyondtheblog.wordpress.com/2007/11/17/a-new-look-at-sentencing

    Hi Selma,
    I used to love those old Pantos. Harmless fun, whereas now it’s been transferred to politics ;-)
    Yes, I don’t think barbarism is EVER too far away. It keeps popping up to the surface of society now and again to remind us it’s still there.

  42. stan said

    Two sides to every story – good to know both.

  43. Hi Stan,
    Yep! There’s always two sides.

  44. Gattina said

    And the morality of the morality is my morality : I have my own one ! as long as it doesn’t bother anybody or myself.

  45. Hi Gattina,
    And that is the way to be. I often recall the Wiccan Rede: Do as you will but hurt none.
    It makes a lot of sense.

  46. Yes, laughing and crying are so close! I like your verse!

  47. Hi Linda,
    Indeed. Often it is a toss up as to which one will apply in any given situation.

  48. Quilly said

    Your poem and your Life of Crime both just put smiles on my face.

  49. Hi Quilly,
    Thanks for that. Comments like that make it all worthwhile :-)

  50. Laura said

    That post definitely made me think…I needed the challenge today!
    Happy T13!

  51. Hi Laura,
    Thanks for that. Thinking is what it’s all about.

  52. Bernie said

    What a lovely post. Thank you for sharing this.

    And also, come by and visit my TT: 13 Colonoscopy Comments to make while your physician is down there doing his thing.

  53. Hi Bernie,
    Thanks for that.

  54. Elaine said

    I think moral standards should always be PERFECTION, then you just love God and TRY…

  55. Hi Elaine,
    Thanks for sharing that.

  56. Anon said

    I rather think that forced morality isn’t really morality.

  57. Hi Anon,
    Absolutely. I think I said similar to that. The only restraint between adults should be consent. Although that is different to employing manners.

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