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TONY ON SOCIO-CAPITALISM (TT #31) & MORE

Posted by anthonynorth on November 17, 2008

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alpha-bankThis is slightly longer than my normal TTs, but I hope you find it worthwhile. Promise to be shorter in future.
13. Human society is based on economics. Outside religion, this has always been the case. Slavery, empire, feudalism, fascism, communism, capitalism – all are economic systems. And the trouble they can cause becomes obvious. What I want to do here is attempt a new economic theory to remove dangers in the system.

12. Our present level of technology provides the key.

capitalist-2Eco-friendly new tech is on the drawing board that can be cheap and only requires small systems to build and operate. The present world runs on big systems, which are expensive, become dictatorial and lead to boom and bust.
11. The key to a new system should be bottom up, as opposed to the usual top down. Hence, free thinkers should seek out enterprising new engineers at a local level and form ‘committees for change’, passing the message at local levels, and electing a spokesman to go forward to a ‘national forum for change.’

10. This forum should be enterprising.

It should seek internet donations and form a media arm to popularize a new way. As funds come in, each committee should start an Inventors and Ideas Academy to tackle new tech and new systems in every area of commerce and public services.
9. Managers should then be recruited to build and run small factories, extraction facilities, etc, with maximum robotisation, producing such tech and goods. A recycling scrap mercantile system would also be created, buying already used building materials, metals, textiles, plastics, etc, to recycle into raw material for the factories. Smaller farming practices should also be encouraged. All these assets would be controlled by the national forum run under a social/ecological constitution, but the national forum would not be allowed to sell anything.

8. Rather, entrepreneurs would be king.

They would be encouraged to join a new ‘petty economy’, forming firms and financial services that will run a closed economy with credits to buy services and ordered goods from the factories in order to trade. Profits will go half to the national forum and half to the entrepreneurs. Within this closed economy, entrepreneurs can merge, do take-overs of other trading companies within the system and make or lose fortunes as normal, WITHOUT damaging the industrial base!
7. These entrepreneurs would not be allowed to sell goods direct to the public, but would have to form franchises, thus boosting small business. Further, local committees would set up ‘trade centres’ to encourage and assist people in turning their hobbies into small businesses. Everyone would be encouraged to find their niche.

hospital-bed6. Here’s the social bit.

The profits from the national forum and factories would go to directly fund a new infra-structure. Again using new tech and ideas from the thriving Academies, this structure would be in two forms. It would work on new power, communications, water and transport systems; and it would plan and fund new hospitals, schools and social services.
5. We can see here that buying products from this new economic system would directly fund essential services, which would be free at the point of use. Local involvement would also be encouraged, thus using hospitals, schools, etc, to kick-start a renewed sense of community.

4. Now comes the bit for everyone.

house-2The national forum would then begin a social/ecological house building project, providing basic houses. Tenants would pay a small rent for life, but would be able to immediately improve the property as they wish. The house would enter the ‘petty economy’, so without actually buying it, the house could be sold, inherited, etc, as if it was owned. Capital could be raised from it, and the owner could opt into a shares system within the entrepreneurial firms, thus raising more money. A small percentage of any transaction, along with the small rent, would go into the social pot, thus funding a retirement pension scheme, and insurance against ill health and unemployment. The fund managers of this pot would be able to invest in entrepreneurial firms, thus also boosting the ‘petty economy’.

3. As the new ‘petty economy’ increased it would cover every area of life.

And it would slowly begin to replace the present capitalist system. A turning point would come when government would have to favour the system. At this point, income would be enough for new tech and ideas to infiltrate legislature, judiciary, executive, civil service, diplomatic corps, police, prisons and the armed forces.
2. The upshot would be that all means of production, housing and public services would be national forum controlled, but all means of commerce would remain independent and fully capitalist. Income for services would come from every transaction made, creating such a huge social pot that taxation would be abolished!
1. Some 80% of any country’s trading is with itself, leaving some 20% within a global economy. National forums should then send representatives to form a global trade centre. This centre would then open a market for global entrepreneurial firms. These would then co-ordinate the remaining 20% of global trade for profit, safe in the knowledge that 80% of trade is locked in closed national systems, and not affected by global economics. Nations would have their own economy and identity back.
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The global trade centre should also have two essential tasks – raising funds from a small percentage of every transaction in the global market to fund similar systems tailor made to Third World countries; and to fund the exploration and colonization of space. This would provide a global collective project above national identity. And seeing that most conflict is over trade, there wouldn’t be much left to argue about. The world would have become more peaceful, and in order to keep a check on the global trading system, governments would have to come together to create a World Congress for Cooperation.
This is the first time I’ve written about such a system. Your thoughts are more than welcome.

© Anthony North, November 2008

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THE ORAL TRADITION

Poetry thrives, it always will,
man can never have had his fill,
of words that say so much to all,
making us great and never small;
Sometimes it seems this isn’t the case,
poets, after all, have been displaced,
by radio, TV, CD and more,
getting your words heard becomes a chore;
Oral tradition seems a thing from the past,
no one wanting to hear, alas!
But it’s so alive, a magnificent success,
everywhere you hear it, and not under duress,
from its beginnings by the campfire, creating heroes and myths,
through Medieval ballad it continually exists,
perfected by Romantics, the hippies of old,
going on to be song lines, oral poetry unfolds,
changing its medium, but not its zap,
you hear it always, from ballads to RAP;
So often the poet feels maligned,
searching, searching, an audience to find,
speaking the verse to echoing halls,
few people there to be enthralled;
But competing with its success needs ventures anew,
to popularise its pure form, break through,
and the answer is never, ever, be glum,
reinvent, adapt, make poetry fun!

(c) Anthony North, November 2008

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woodAUTUMN MEMORIES – Fiction

Watching.
The days darken – the sun, when it shines, a colder orb, no longer nourishing – no longer washing the land with life giving heat.
Watching.
The sky growing angry – blue turning to grey, clouds changing from fluffy majesty to black, swirling masses – and the rain, and the wind, and the anger batters the land.
Watching.
The flowers wilting, decimated – the grass ceasing to grow, the trees showing signs of decay, the leaves losing moisture, becoming brittle, blown off, scattered, by the angry wind.
Watching.
People covering up – chilled – a sunken mood about them, going this way and that more slowly, shoulders drooped, as if in the presence of death.
Watching.
Over this eternal story, not of death, but of respite before renewal, in never ending cycles of continued existence, an end the precursor of a new beginning.
Hoping.
That one day man may remember that in loss there is new life – that existence is more than the individual, but continuance of everything in the cycles of on going creation.
Knowing.
That this is true. For I am your planet.

© Anthony North, November 2008

69 Responses to “TONY ON SOCIO-CAPITALISM (TT #31) & MORE”

  1. Anthony for President. Brilliant I say, absolutely brilliant. Have a great day. :)

  2. Hi Sandee,
    Thanks for that, but I think I’ll pass on the politician thing. I just couldn’t sell my soul like that ;-)

  3. Tina said

    wonderful autumn story – great thoughts in there. i like the word decimated too. i have never heard it before, but i like the sound of it (im a strange girl!)

    Happy HoT Day

  4. Hi Tina,
    Many thanks. I thought it might be interesting to see what the planet thought of it all.

  5. Chris said

    Hi Anthony,
    ‘Demerging’ sounds like a great way to go.
    Entrepeneurial Kingdoms: Lots of little ‘Monacos’ running around rather than massive ‘blocs’.
    Bringing together capitalism, democracy, self ownership and creativity would seem to be a great way of delivering ‘meaningful’ growth and redistributing the ‘wealth’ from the hands of the few to the hands of the many.

    Now, all we need is a catalyst, something tells me that this concept won’t ’self combust’. ;)

  6. Travis said

    Very interesting economic theory.

  7. Skittles said

    I posted that Autumn is my favorite season. Maybe it is the rest, the waiting for renewal of which you wrote. Maybe I just like to jump in piles of leaves. Maybe it’s both. :)

  8. The Heads or Tails piece if fabulous!

  9. if only

  10. Hi Chris,
    I hope it won’t self-combust. You seem to have grasped the concept well. Of course, there would be many sticking points, but I’m sure if we had a concerted, enterprising go at it, it could be made to work.

    Hi Travis,
    Thanks for that.

    Hi Skittles,
    Ah, jumping into piles of leaves. The urge never leaves me, no matter how old I get. Though it takes longer to get back up again, nowadays ;-)

    Hi Forgetfulone,
    Many thanks. I’m pleased you liked it.

    Hi Little Old Me,
    One day. Let’s hope.

  11. Simone said

    WOW

    I love the way you express yourself – very powerful.

  12. I am with Sandee, and I wish you’d succumb to some pressure, Anthony!

  13. Hi Simone,
    Many thanks for that kind comment. It’s much appreciated.

    Hi Sandy,
    Thanks for the faith in me.
    As I see it, no politician has ever had an original idea. Politics is the mouthpiece and powerhouse of change in a proactive way, and always based on the thinkers who inspire them.
    It is here, with thinking and writing about new ideas and concepts, that change is birthed. If I do have a little bit to play in how things work out, it is here where I belong. Putting ideas in people’s heads and spreading the message. Changing other people’s opinion and starting a new consensus.
    Politicians are the playthings of philosophy.

  14. Watching….hoping….Love your Autumn memory! One excellent work. Tho with me, Autumn I don’t ‘cover up’ down here…I soak it all in for our Summer heat and humidity is unbearable.

    Thanks for stopping by my HoT entry. Have a super Tuesday.

  15. Hi Hootin’ Anni,
    Many thanks. Your kind words are much appreciated. We had a hot humid summer here in the UK.
    It was a lovely day :-)

  16. Sue said

    Autumn is like the end, and beginning of something new again. It is definitely a spiritual time :) My fave season! Thanks for stopping by!

  17. paisley said

    well tony,, it is evident that you have put a lot of time and thought into this proposal,, and i for one would be willing to give it a try… unfortunately,, more often then not the thinking man,, or woman,, is left doing exactly that,,, thinking,, while those in power continue to do whatever it is they were going to do anyway…

    i know there is an answer for us out there somewhere,,, i just have a foreboding sense that it will take a real meltdown of civilization as we know it to get the doers to listen to the thinkers…….

    excellent post.

  18. Hi Sue,
    Thanks for that. You’ve captured the ongoing cycles perfectly.

    Hi Paisley,
    Yes, the system has been going round in my head for quite a while, and there will no doubt be errors and things to iron out, but the important thing is to get such ideas out in the open, challenging, niggling away at the system.
    Hopefully, such ideas will bring change before a true meltdown, but you’re probably right.

  19. Twilight said

    First – “Autumn Memories” – That is absolutely wonderful – it’s a poem as well as fiction – well, it’s fact as well! I love it! You deserve the blog equivalent of an Oscar for that AN. :-)

    Socio Capitalism seems like the ideal system. Meticulously thought out, AN. Congratulations! I think, though, as Chris and Paisley have already said, that it might take a serious world catastrophe for anything similar to take root. I see it as something which ought to be engraved on stainless steel tablets and put in a vault with seeds, and various information, as a guide for survivors, after The Catastrophe.

  20. Hi Twilight,
    A wonderful comment. Thank you so much :-)
    As for the socio-capitalist system, I live in hope, but as I’ve agreed above, it may well take such an event.

  21. Vic Grace said

    I guess I forget the resting part each year as winter closes in. We have 20″ of snow right now and today is quite sunny. The days are quite short and I have to have the lights until about 10am and put them on again around 3pm and that is on a bright day. Other days we have them on all day. Enjoyable read

  22. Hi Vic Grace,
    Thanks for that. Yes, daylight is receding fast here, too.

  23. Chris said

    Hi Anthony,
    I totally agree with your concept of being the strategist. If we look back in history, how often was it the ‘power behind the throne’ that ‘actually’ made the difference?
    The problem with politicians is that they are usually reactive rather than proactive (look at the infrastructural weaknesses around us) and its all based on staying in power. I have all the time in the world for self respect and no time for ego, but you’ve already discussed that, haven’t you? :)
    Twilight’s Catastrophe may already be here, its called the global economic crisis. Funnily enough, when things are really tough, that seems to be when ‘man raises his head’, we seem to have an uncanny ability to ‘rise’ to the challenge, thank goodness!

  24. Hi Chris,
    Yes, it all depends how deep the present crisis is. One thing I do know is that during times of affluence people don’t think too much. When a downturn happens they begin to search for new ideas.
    I must make sure they find their way to this blog ;-)

  25. Selma said

    Your economic/social model sounds like it could really work. I dream of a system like that actually being the case but fear it is far too enlightened to ever happen. However, I also believe the world is searching for a better way at the moment, so perhaps I should remain hopeful. A very thoughtful and well-considered post.

  26. Hi Selma,
    Thanks for that. I’ll continue to be hopeful myself – or naive?

  27. I love the idea of the earth as a wise old entity that has seen it all, and yet keeps on watching.

  28. Hi The Gal Herself,
    Many thanks for that. And who knows, it may indeed be true :-)

  29. For your 13…from #6 down to #1 is perfect. [I’m not commenting that 13 to 6 isn’t, it’s just that from number 6 to number one is what I’ve said myself mostly.

    My 13 is posted…stop by and hopefully laugh once or twice with Jefé the wise ol’ lady!!

  30. Hi Hootin’ Anni,
    Thanks for that. They say great minds think alike :-)

  31. Great poem, and your Autumn Memories really hit home this week as a friend’s father passed away. I sent her “seeds of life” to plant a living memorial oak tree and keep his memory alive.

  32. Hi Nicole,
    That’s a lovely thought, and I’m happy my post registered with you in this way.

  33. Sue said

    Very interesting ideas! Happy TT :)

  34. Hi Sue,
    Thanks for that. Although I think I’ll be back to poetry next week. Writing that one was exhausting.

  35. the autumn of life is bitter sweet but I’ll take them both –Can you get the people in charge to hear your 13 ideas?

  36. Hi Marcia,
    I keep trying. Maybe there are too many big words :-)

  37. I’d like to be queen of my own little entrepreneurial queendom! Now that sounds fun!

  38. Interesting. I’m more a rank robber-baron type capitalist myself – the old you fail, you fail and deal with it.

    SJR
    The Pink Flamingo

  39. Bernie said

    I always enjoy reading your unique TT’s – always interesting.

    My TT is up at 13 Christmas Gifts for our Muslim Friends

  40. Lori said

    So, do you do these yourself? Nice…Happy TT:)

  41. Hi On A Limb With Claudia,
    It would indeed be fun. And in the above model, the only thing you have to ruin is yourself.

    Hi SJ,
    Certainly failure needs to be dealt with. But if a person is prepared to help himself, he should also get a helping hand.

    Hi Bernie,
    Thanks for that. I’m glad you like them.

    Hi Lori,
    Yes. Every essay, poem and story on this blog is totally my own original work.

  42. stan said

    All that restructuring – lots of sense in it…but who ever listened to sense?

    Formatted poetry is a great discipline – great word exercise – but as the ‘original’ becomes less and less attainable, it becomes very ’same old same old’. I say Do it your own way.

    As long as it keeps turning, we can continue to enjoy the seasons.

  43. Hi Stan,
    It is very true – who DOES listen to sense, especially in a party political world.
    As for poetry, yes, everyone should do it their own way, but it will be a ‘fun’ element that will be needed to initially connect again with a wider audience.

  44. Michelle said

    Very interesting TT. Thanks for sharing and stopping by my little place on the web.

  45. Hi Michelle,
    Many thnaks. I’m pleased you found it interesting.

  46. Love the poem Anthony, the last line is so true! Will be back later to read the full post..

  47. What a concept! We are in dire need of a ‘new’ system. The old stuff doesn’t work and yet like all people we cling to tradition, even when it’s not working. The poem is so true! I love the note from Earth.

  48. Hi Andy,
    Many thanks. Hope you like the idea when you return.

    Hi Tumblewords,
    Thanks for that. Yes, I think it’s time to try something new. I suspect even Earth would agree.

  49. Judi said

    Working in a ‘local’ government I say “Good Luck”. No matter what form of society you form you’ll always have those that like it and those who oppose it. Since no two of us are alike we will never agree. You have good ideas, buy you’ll still be dealing with human beings.

  50. Hi Judi,
    You’ve got an important point there. Human beings are always the wild card. But then again, if they weren’t we may as well just be robots in a sterile machine-like society.
    But I’ll stick to my guns nonetheless.

  51. Hi Anthony, first of all, great post.I like the idea of the social housing project and the thought that taxation would be abolished. I’ll need to think more/re-read about the ‘Petty economy’ am I right in thinking it would be some sort of corporate national pot? The problem I see with your vision is the issue of control. The National Forum? Who would they be? would we still have opposition party’s?

    Moving on, I also like the idea of people being encouraged to find their niche and the creation of small businesses for Joe Public et al. Again though, who would do the encouraging? The ruling power?

    Then there’s the local commities and the forums for change leading to the National Forum and ultimately the international forum. I think you might have to change the names of these bodies as National anything, is likely to get a lot of people reading something else into it.

    I think perhaps the way forward might be to start with one small community and when it succeeds others will copy it.
    Andy

  52. Hi Andy,
    Thanks for this considered response. The ‘corporate national pot’ is about right. As for government, this would go on as before, with, hopefully, new ideas in philosophy of government from the academies.
    I suppose the best way to see it is as similar to the Industrial Revolution as opposed to French Revolution. The whole system would be apolitical, going alongside normal government, in the same way as industry and philanthropy caused the changes in the Industrial Revolution.
    This wouldn’t be a political revolution, and people would remain in whatever political persuasion they choose, and vote for a government just the same as they do now. The national forum would be totally separate to this – a kind of co-ordinating forum for the enterprises going on.
    Who would encourage Joe Public? No one. They would have the choice to remain as they are, in a normal house in a normal economy; or, if they wanted, they could enter the initial ‘alternative’ system of taking one of the basic houses, thus joining the scheme and opportunity on offer. If enough people opted for the system, then it would eventually become predominant. If not, it would remain ‘alternative’, or fail.
    As for the naming, I suppose if good was seen to be done in terms of ‘national’, people may begin to see a difference between ‘national’ and ‘nationalistic’. But I do see your point here.

  53. Hi Anthony, thanks for the clarification. I’m a little slow on the uptake, sometimes. Yes, this sounds like a great idea. We just need someone to step up and run with it. I look forward to reading more about this as your ideas unfold.
    Andy

  54. Hi Andy,
    Thanks for that. It begins, I think, with spreading the message.

  55. Shannon H. said

    Yet another excellent post!

  56. Hi Shannon H,
    Thanks for that. Glad you liked it.

  57. I enjoyed reading your post. You express yourself very well. Some thought provoking ideas. Hope you and your family have a wonderful Thanksgiving.
    Phils Grill

  58. I agree with you about making poetry fun! On Monday my tenth graders are bringing cameras to school and we are going outside so they can compose a wordless poem using just the pictures they take. It has to have a theme and a cool title. It’ll be interesting to see what they come up with. Hopefully, they’ll get the message that there is poetry in everything and that it can be enjoyable.

    Great poem!

  59. Hi Phils Grill,
    Thanks for that. Unfortunately, though, I’m a Brit. I have to wait until Christmas for my turkey ;-)

    Hi Linda,
    Many thanks. Yes, this is a good way to spread the message. If you capture their interest at an early age, you could steer them towards a life long interest.

  60. pieceofpie said

    hello tony, excellent piece of writing… you put some thought into this post and appreciate your effort… the last line sez it all… that we may succeed in our endeavor to be free and not succumb to total self-indulgence…

  61. Hi Pieceofpie,
    Thanks for that. I’ve been thinking about those ideas for a while. It was time to write them down.

  62. Chris said

    Hi Anthony,
    I thought that you might ‘like’ this one (well maybe not). :)
    I just heard that Qantas shares have just risen because they are proposing a merger with British Airways. The (legitimate) concerns raised down here are that the new ’super-merged’ airline will have to be called ‘Brontosaurus’. This has got a definite flavour of ‘extinction’ about it.

  63. Hi Chris,
    If this is right, it simply adds to what seems to be going on. There has been so much news over here that I’m unsure of the situation at the moment.
    I seem to recall something about BA getting together with Spain’s largest airline. Further, there was something about BA and American Airlines having a joint agreement to work together. This, combined with the intention to build another runway at Heathrow, and now if Qantas merges too, will make a mega-airline with major transport hubs around the world, and capable of dictating to all other airlines.
    You see, they’ve gone as far as they can nationally – AA came out of the merger of 82 independent airlines – so getting together internationally beats the mergers commissions.

  64. Chris said

    Hi Anthony,
    As scary as this is it is a definite possibility. The unions are already involved because they are concerned about job losses.
    I’m not normally a conspiracy theorist, but when Big Biz is involved I immediately move into ’sceptic mode’.

  65. Hi Chris,
    The merger has been mentioned in some of the UK papers now. Exactly as I thought Big Biz will be using the Recession to consolidate their position.
    I think it is important not to invoke conspiracy theory, though. There’s no conspiracy going on, as such. It’s just normal business practice. The problem with it is that the businesses are just too big, and are now being allowed to get bigger because in controlling the economy, they naturally control government. No government is going to cut its throat by drying up the economy.
    Again, no conspiracy. Just normal business practice, writ large. The implications for freedom just go over their heads.

  66. Chris said

    Hi Anthony,
    Agreed. Its not a conspiracy, its ’small mindedness’, I think that they just can’t see the big picture and future ramifications.

  67. Hi Chris,
    That’s ‘reductionism’ for you – that old consensus again.

  68. Chris said

    Hi Anthony,
    The plot thickens. I have just heard that Qantas have been fined $20 million and B.A. $5 million for price fixing.
    Interesting?

  69. Hi Chris,
    This I can certainly believe.

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