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THE FOREVER GODS

Posted by anthonynorth on May 21, 2008

The more I study the mind and society, the more I am convinced the two are interlinked to a far greater extent than we realize. Indeed, not only this, but throughout our existence we have shared specific traits.
This is what I would call ‘universal psychology’. Carl Jung captured the concept in the ‘collective unconscious’, populated by ‘archetypes’, which appear to be specific personality fragments of the mind.

Such fragments appear in myth.

These are the great mythological beings. And this gives us a hint as to the connective ‘mechanism’ between mind and society. This mechanism is culture.
Of course, culture continually changes. But is this only on the surface? Could it be that, underneath specific cultural expression, there is a universality? I’m convinced there is, and it is continually expressed through religion.

This does, of course, suggest the universality is no more.

After all, we live in materialist, individualistic and atheistic times, so how can a universal psychology possibly continue into the cultural present?
Perhaps we need to clarify religion. Regardless whether a God, or gods, really exist, there must be an impulse within US that makes us believe, or accept, such deities. And regardless of religion, certain factors can be identified.

A deity has specific attributes.

It is ethereal. It is ‘higher’ than man, and omnipotent. It is controlling and gives favour. And it leads to actions in the form of monumental buildings and cultural control by media and hierarchy.
Place any form of rationality on the concept of a deity and it disappears. Hence, to believe requires a ‘leap of faith’, for it is an irrational concept. But can such a thing be seen at the heart of modern western culture today?

I think it can.

Whilst it isn’t in the form of a deity, let us consider the ‘credit’ behind modern wealth and consumerism. As it is the ‘engine’ through which commerce works, it is higher.
The way credit works means that it is ‘controlling’, as it is fundamental to your, and any company’s wealth. By having credit, you are given favour. And the biggest buildings in a modern city tends to be banks and trade centres.
And it is, of course, an engine of cultural control. Yet, although it exists on paper, if everyone was to repay what they owe, it would very quickly disappear. Thus, it is also irrational and ethereal.
Credit appears to be the new cultural God-form. In all its specific ‘qualities’ it is identical to the ‘mechanisms’ behind a deity. And thus it confirms that the deity-urge is still with us.
Yes, it is in very different cultural clothes. But existent nonetheless – and existent despite our urges towards materialism, individualism and atheism. Universal psychology, it seems, will out, regardless what we think, or believe, we are.

© Anthony North, May 2008

14 Responses to “THE FOREVER GODS”

  1. Brian said

    I don’t think I’ve read anything that linked God to credit before. I do like the way your mind works my friend.

  2. Hi Brian,
    Thanks for that. The first thing I do with a ‘concept’ is extract all cultural influence. Once you do that, you get down to the raw psycho-sociology at the root of it.
    Then it can be compared to similar influences. And it never ceases to fascinate me how often these patterns repeat. And every time, we’re told it’s something new!

  3. Thomas M. Barnes said

    Credit is God? God is an impulse for us to extend our “selves” in a controlling fashion into the formlessness of chaos? Okay. I will buy it.

    Now what do I do with this information? How can I use it ?

  4. Hi Thomas,
    I don’t exactly say God is Credit, but that both have echoes of the same sociological impulse. How can you use it?
    Well, I suppose it depends on how you classify knowledge. Is it only valuable if it is pragmatic, or does the pure beauty of knowledge have value?
    To me the latter is equally important – and it works on the mind, changing our appreciation of the world in subtle ways.
    In this way, it can be more powerful than the pragmatic.

  5. Mark Shaw said

    I like your theories. Thomas Merton talks about attachments and the need to die before we may live. So many people are devoted to false gods – ones that credit cards buy – possessions they really don’t need but have anyway. Besides Merton, people may want to read Tolstoy’s Ivan Ilych. The main character was focused on “little-G” gods instead of what really mattered in life. As he approaches death, he understands that all his possessions mean little to him. Good lesson for everyone.

    I also like Merton’s way of challenging us to empty ourselves before we can be full again. Other religions and spiritualites deal with this point as well in slightly different ways, but the challenge is to rededicate ourselves to a love for God, and God alone and discard all else. When we do this, the credit cards go out the window, the debt rope is untangled. Want to see how it works – just pay cash for something and see how good it feels.

    More about Merton, etc. at my blog – mertonandfriends.wordpress.com.

  6. Hi Mark,
    Thanks for that. Your words here sum it up for me:

    ‘Other religions and spiritualites deal with this point as well in slightly different ways…’

    The point is, the only difference is culture. The ‘mechanisms’ of such mysticism are identical, suggesting there is an ‘under religion’ below ALL gods.

  7. gnostic 23-7 said

    your ‘under religion’ sounds very similar to Joseph Campell’s conception of the universality of the mechanisms within Myth.

  8. Hi Gnostic 23-7,
    Campbell was a great influence on me. The under-religion, though, is a definite marriage between culture and the deeper human psyche.

  9. Next time I go to an ATM, I will first kneel and utter “Bless me, Father, for I have sinned”. Maybe that way I’ll get more money 🙂

  10. Hi Red,
    You mean you don’t already? 😉

  11. baz said

    hi anthony

    do you remember the line, “the love of money is the root of all evil”. are you substituting worship? that was supposed to represent the devil using credit for control. i think without credit, (money), our western civilization would not exist, it produces the opportunity for us all to experience freedom. the ability to be free gives us time to contemplate the idea of god. we are all linked together, although we know it we don’t believe it. being linked together gives god the opertunity to give us ideas to make this incarnation the fun we make of it. god is the best soap opera writer there ever will be, he is billions of episodes ahead, but we only experience one episode every day. if only we could remember the script we chose to read before we got here?

    baz

    remember you are god

  12. Hi Baz,
    Some interesting reflections there. I am a capitalist myself, but I’d argue whether the present system enhances our ‘freedom’. It’s all gone too far, and it is beginning to take our freedom away.
    As for the basic premise, I’m not using it for any religious/political reason, but simply to show that we think the same, always, once we take culture out.

  13. Sue Hickey said

    I like what Blaise Pascal says – (and I’m paraphrasing)remove God from your mind and you’re left with a “God-shaped void” that something else rushes in to fill. In other words, ya gotta believe in something…and when we dismiss a deity, then the gods of materialism rush in to fill the void, and having stuff seems to be more important than having spirit….think I’m going to go off and listen to my Thomas Tallis 40-part-harmony music of the spheres motet!

  14. Hi Sue,
    Clever fellow, Pascal, even if he was mathematician.

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