WHAT SURVIVES DEATH?
Posted by anthonynorth on May 25, 2008
The paranormal is full of supposed phenomena relating to an afterlife. From ghosts, to possessions, to reincarnation, to mediumship the idea is prevalent that there is life after death, and it interacts with those who are alive.
Sometimes, I seem skeptical about such claims. Rather, psychology can answer it, with phenomena such as cryptomnesia, multiple personality, hallucination, split-brain and hysteria all playing their part.
I remain convinced that these DO play a part.
But this does not imply that the mystery is explained fully with such phenomena. For I am also convinced that there is much more to it.
For instance, what do we KNOW survives death? Quite a lot, actually. Death causes decay which is the seed of new life. If you had offspring, your DNA survives. But also remembrance of you survives in the minds of others.
This can form a cultural link.
For instance, if the person was a writer, his words continue to exist. Stories about a person can go on to enter culture. This was even an early religious form in ancestor worship, and myths seem to suggest remembrance of past feats.
This all suggests that the dead can continue to have a cultural influence upon our thought processes. And in an important sense, this is a form of life after death, including interaction with the living.
Moving away from culture, what else is there?
Well, the more I study the mind, the more convinced I become that it is not yours. Rather, we have become too infatuated with the idea of the ‘individual’ as a separate entity.
Carl Jung identified specific ‘archetypes’ within the mind. These seem to be expressions of human character traits. If this is correct, then the various ‘character’ elements we can have are actually shared throughout the species.
Emotions seem to follow a similar idea.
Whilst our emotional expression can be specific to the person, the actual emotions themselves seem to be ‘shared’. Emotions seem, again, to be more species traits than personal.
Bearing this in mind, we can have a new model of individuality. Rather than being ‘separate’ to the species, it seems to be that what we class as the ‘individual’ is a specific pattern – an amalgam – of various species traits. We are more of the species than the person.
This has a bearing on life after death.
We see death in terms of the individual. When a person dies, we seem to think what he was dies with him. Of course, religionists have known this to be wrong. Rather, his ‘spirit’ survives.
Are we now in a position to define what ‘spirit’ is? If all the elements that made up your mind are of the species, then when you die, those traits remain within the species. ‘You’ may not be as dead as you think.
Earlier, I noted how the person leaves elements of himself in ‘culture’. Now, could it be that, after a person’s death, this cultural input could somehow merge with the species traits, thus producing a form of afterlife of the person?
Such a view is highly speculative, and in order to be experienced, the known phenomena I spoke of earlier would have to be invoked. But it is, perhaps, wrong to say that a rational theory cannot be made of a real interactive survival of death.
© Anthony North, May 2008
Simonne said
Ah what a great post 🙂 The collective consciousness is something I love to mull over. Thanks for such a thoughtful post.
anthonynorth said
Hi Simonne,
Thanks for that. Such subjects fascinate me. If you’re interested, you might want to click my MYSTERIES page at top of this site.
It has links to dozens of posts I’ve done on the unexplained.
goesdownbitter said
Life after death is predicated on the premise that we believe we are alive. We accept that the existence we experience is real because we have no other frame of reference. We have ‘faith’ that we are alive and that life is based on proofs that are self-evident. Perhaps the Bitter Hinterlands understands that life before death is more important.
anthonynorth said
Hi Goesdownbitter,
Maybe you’ve got a circular argument, here. Whether this ‘life’ is being alive or dead is irrelevant to it being what we ‘experience’. Hence, anything before or after is still before or after, and different.
Travis said
I’ve always found this subject fascinating.
animar said
To answer your question on a practical level-
breast implants- along with our ‘enduring bones ‘ of course.
Great post Tony it was a fun read
Anita Marie
anthonynorth said
Hi Travis,
Indeed. And we can never know for sure until it’s too late to tell anyone. Unless …
Hi Anita Marie,
Hey! The afterlife is silicon. I like it 😉
SandyCarlson said
I wonder if we can know or need to know what happens to this mysterious thing that animates us after our bodies quit. I have been content to believe something does happen without needing to know what.
anthonynorth said
Hi Sandy,
Yes, and that is the view of most, I think. And a noble view. As for me, I’ve spent years researching things paranormal, and this usbject is such a huge chunk of that world – in particular, the idea that the dead can visit the living.
In this sense, just what is going on takes on a new significance for the researcher, fuelling a need to try to understand it. As for whether we ever will, I’d put odds on there being no chance.
Rosemary said
When humans or spirits of animals die the body remains on Earth and the Spirit leaves the body and takes with it all its intelligence and memories both good and bad and from the Spirit World they can come into our dreams, and they can put thoughts into our minds and they can write through us doing automatic writing and sometimes we know it and sometimes we are quite unaware that minds from beyond are interacting with the world through us as a channel.
When we do know we are Mediums agreeing to work with those minds beyond Earth which of course is where all go after we finish our life here on earth.
I have been working with Guides and others in the World Beyond since l985 and some of them are nice and some are just as mean and stubborn as they were when they walked the Earth.
Links to my published stories which may prove interesting to you.
http://www.true/ghosttales.com/stories/four-spirits.php
and:
http:www.trueghosttales.com/stories/rosemary-experiences-demons.php
All hopefully will prove life after death and I have timed and dated notes which I have collected since l985 when this all began and Hopefully it will eventually be believed and help to further paranormal research.
Selma said
You are on to something here. No doubt about it. I hope that at some stage you discuss this further; as many of your readers have said, it is a fascinating subject.
anthonynorth said
Hi Rosemary,
I always have a problem when I read such comments. I’ve been researching such subjects for some 25 years, and I’ve never known a case that only has one explanation – i.e. a definite, classically understood afterlife. I suppose the only ‘absolute’ is there never can be, which is itself a contradiction.
Such is the state of what we can definitely know. Now, I’m prepared to say a definite afterlife may exist. Are you prepared to say it may not?
Hi Selma,
Thanks for that. I can almost guarantee I will be returning to it. However, if you’re interested, there’s quite a few links to my posts on related subjects on the MYSTERIES page.
Geraldine said
Hi Anthony, This was a very interesting post. I have had many experiences with people on ‘the other side’ and have no doubts that they continue to interact with us and have an impact on our lives. We have to be open to the experience though and not try to ‘force’ something to happen. It just does. You brought up some excellent thoughts on this topic,thank you. G
http://www.mypoeticpath.wordpress.com
anthonynorth said
Hi Geraldine,
Thanks for that. Although I don’t accept the classically held ideas of afterlife and interaction with the living, certainly there is more to the subject than the sceptics would have us believe.
Alex Cull said
That’s a very interesting take on the subject, Anthony. And you are right about the great emphasis on the individual, in Western thought. Are we all atoms, so to speak? Or islands, apparently separate entities but all connected on another level? Plenty of food for thought here & another insightful post.
anthonynorth said
Hi Alex,
Thanks for that. Yes, I’m convinced there’s far more to us than our individuality. And we won’t really begin to understand reality until we move away from this idea.
The Rev George Sherrill said
Dear Anthony,
I enjoy your work, thank you for your insight. You may find it interesting to explore the relationship between the concepts of Sarx, Soma, and Pneuma.
anthonynorth said
Hi Rev George,
Thanks for that. I’m pleased you like my work. From what I can gather, you’re talking, here, about a relationship between flesh, breath and mind.
That’s life, alright.