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NESSIE & YETI – A THEORY

Posted by anthonynorth on August 17, 2008

The Abominable Snowman and the Loch Ness Monster. Two of the most famous monsters in Cryptozoology. Everyone has an opinion about them. The tourist industry loves them. But what are they?
Some say they are survivals of previous lifeforms thought to be extinct. Others think they are purely monsters of the mind. Whilst the skeptic usually concludes they are more the fraudulent type of monster.

Let’s look at the Abominable Snowman first.

Known by many names, including Yeti or Alma, it is thought to live in the Himalayas. Many claim to have seen it, and even more numerous are the footprints it is said to have left.
Ape-like, but with various ‘human’ attributes, many see it as a kind of ‘missing link’ between man and ape. Yet, whatever its reality, it has been part of folklore in the area for many centuries.

The Loch Ness Monster is similarly illusive.

Thought to live in Lock Ness in Scotland, skeptics claim it came into existence only when a new road was built alongside the loch, affording a view and, of course, tourism.
Seen on hundreds of occasions, its shape often resembles the plesiosaur, which is obviously extinct. The many photographs of the monster have usually turned out to be fakes, or mis-identification of things such as driftwood.

There are problems concerning both creatures.

First of all, if existent, it is unlikely we are dealing with one monster, but a colony. This brings up the problem of food supply. Neither of their habitats is thought capable of sustaining such a colony.
Another problem is their illusiveness. Various high tech ‘hunts’ have been undertaken, and if ‘real’, it is fair to assume they would have been proved to exist by now. However, such illusiveness is indicative of the ‘all in the mind’ scenario. But nothing is as simple as that.

The fact is, they are not alone.

Rather, most wildernesses and large lakes seem to have their own related monster. Think Bigfoot in America. Scotland itself has many lake monsters. And throughout the world you will find stories and sightings concerning their cousins.
Often, these worldwide monsters have local attributes concerning size, shape, habits, etc. But when you take away these local variations, we end up with the same two monster-types globally – a man-like ape, and a large marine reptile.
Interestingly, these two monster-types can be placed at specific moments of evolution that would be quite traumatic. The reptile, for instance, would have appeared when sentient life first broke the surface of the sea. For the first time, the vastness of the world would be seen. And equally traumatic would have been the time when man’s ancestor first left the trees to walk on the ground along with the dangerous predators.
So, our monsters seem to fit an evolutionary pattern, representing traumatic periods of our evolutionary past. Could we retain memories of such periods – in our DNA, for instance? And if so, when we find ourselves in vast wildernesses, or by the shore of enigmatic lakes, could a memory be sparked in our minds?
And possibly replayed, before our very eyes, as a hallucination. I suspect we are dealing, here, with Super Ghosts of our traumatic evolutionary past.

© Anthony North, August 2008

29 Responses to “NESSIE & YETI – A THEORY”

  1. Thomas M. Barnes said

    huh? Ghosts of our evolutionary past? Why not a common overmind psychosis? Why not a cultural quirk found in all human societies that exist in wooded areas and/or lakes? Why not cultural bleed over from myths told around campfires at night 200,000 years ago?

  2. Lori said

    I would love to think that Nessie existed… but as I understand it, Loch Ness was frozen solid during the ice age, so how did the Nessies survive that? The same is true for the Champies in Vermont’s Lake Champlain.

  3. Hi Thomas,
    Why not, indeed. Why not hallucinate every variation of angst, etc, you want. Because, my friend, there is a consistency, worldwide, of two particular types in lake and wilderness.
    Which, to me, deserves a more honed hypothesis.

    Hi Lori,
    Quite true. And how I wish it could be real. But that’s the heart speaking. The mind looks for alternative answers.

  4. Selma said

    Interesting hypothesis that could definitely explain why neither creature’s existence has been definitively proven. It could also explain the almost preternatural fear many people have of deep lakes and woodlands, as well as the mythology surrounding those areas that exists in many cultures. We are only beginning to understand the power of the mind and of memory. Your hypothesis may yet be proven as more research comes to light.

  5. paisley said

    did you read selmas blog earlier in the week about sneaking out in the night as a child and seeing nessie?? i never really believed such phenomenon existed,, but i have to wonder now……

  6. Hi Selma,
    Indeed. And what I know is this: it is a mystery that cannot be discarded as easily as science would wish.
    There’s more to it than they can imagine. Well, no. We CAN imagine. Which is the point.

    Hi Paisley,
    Oh, believe me, there is more to such things than we think. And yes, I left a comment on Selma’s blog about the coincidence that I’d just been working on this post.
    Spooky!
    Or great minds, and all that … 🙂

  7. I love these mysteries, Anthony, and I love the way you present them.

  8. Just Jen said

    two guys are claiming they found big foot up north (ontario, canada)…it’s a mystery

  9. Twilight said

    How about a bit of lateral thinking? What if….there are pockets of “time warp” in some areas of wilderness or in some deep waters. Occasionally, if a person happened to be present at just the right moment a glimpse through the “warp” in time might reveal one of these creatures which possibly did inhabit the wilderness or water in the distant past. I know – it’s very sci-fi!

  10. Little old me said

    I like twilight’s idea, or I just like to think, they are a dam-sight cleverer than the rest of us and are hiding and having a good laugh at us

  11. Hi Sandy,
    Thanks for that. I, too, have been in love with such mysteries for decades. I can’t get enough of them.

    Hi Just Jen,
    Yes, there are new stories arising all the time about such things. One of the best sites for them is Cryptomundo, which can be accessed by clicking MYSTERIES at top of site and then selecting ‘Useful Sites & Orgs’.

    Hi Twilight,
    I don’t know about the ‘time warp’, but your idea is not as sci fi as you think. Paranormal literature is full of the ‘time slip’, where people seem to directly experience the past.
    The most famous is the visit to Versailles by two elderly British ladies called Ms Moberley and Jourdain. They experienced everything as if it was the 18th century, even seeing Marie Antionette.
    The most remarkable is a couple visiting France and spending a night in an old-worldly hotel. Months later they decided to go back again, and found the same hotel, but modernised. They’d actually spent the night in the hotel as it was a hundred years before.

    Hi Little Old Me,
    It would be great if what you say is true. Personally, I think we’ve got a lot to learn about the universe yet. Science has only just scratched the surface. I love it when they speak of ‘laws of nature’.
    This is not true. They are laws of how man thinks nature works. A completely different thing.

  12. Yfoog said

    Twilight has in interesting thought. I like it.

    I have a less-than scientific hypothesis/idea that I think is kind of fun.
    First off, I think it is ridiculous for us (humans) to think we are the only intelligent life in the vastness of space. Also, there is the possibility that some are more advanced than we are. That being said, there would be “differences” between the individuals “personalities”. What if the “aliens” are more like us than we think, and there are some of them that are smart alecks too? What if they know “doorways” to travel through, and get bored and just want to mess with us? “Hey…wanna mess with the humans today? You still got that costume?” I know it sounds…simple…but it would also explain why we’ve not yet (unless the one in Georgia somehow pans out, which doesn’t look very promising at this point)found remains of Yeti, Bigfoot, Sausquatch, or any of the others.

    Just a thought.

  13. Hi Yfoog,
    Fort, of course, would have called it the Cosmic Joker. Extraterrestrial theatricals – I like it 🙂

  14. Part of me wishes these monsters were real. (and we won’t get into the folks who say they have Bigfoot in a freezer in Georgia) There’s such romance associated with them — along with the horror they bring.

    I don’t know. They’re neat… but not. That’s the romance. Maybe they are. Maybe…

    Maybe…

  15. Hi Susan,
    I share your wishes. They encapsulate much of our desires, for excitement, for mystery. And even as theories come and go, that ‘maybe’ remains. As, I suppose, it should.

  16. Skye said

    Very intriguing theory, and it makes sense. My only complaint: the word is “elusive”, not “illusive”. You look much more credible when you use the correct term.

    illusive: adjective – chiefly literary deceptive; illusory. (Compact Oxford English dictionary)

    elusive: adjective – (1) difficult to find, catch, or achieve. (2) difficult to remember.

    I can’t help it: I’m a tech writer!

  17. doug l said

    So…this colony idea and Loch Ness. Of course there has to be a population of reproducing animals to sustain the species, but consider the notion that the creature is some sort of hyper developed morph of lamprey or hagfish. These species are known for their stategy of lying buried in the mud of submerged alluvial fans and the ooze of the bottom itself, using almost no energy for long periods of time until the detection of food (a rotting carcass perhaps) or a pheremone from its species itself triggered by favorable environmental factors, brings to an animated stage for a relatively brief period following which it dies, or returns to its source.
    I’ve never heard of anyone actully trying to sink a cow carcass or two in Lock Ness and observe what eats it. In the ocean when the rare whale carcass is documented the chemials of decay in the water currents at the bottom evidently are an environmental cue that signals healthy populatons of lampreys and hagfish to appear as if from nowhere and devour the carcass’ tissue, get into close proximity with others of their species and then dissappear until the next whale carcass sinks within their area or some disant long period flooding cycle brings new detritus upon which they depend.
    I don’t know what Lock Ness creature is, but to simply say there must be a breeding colony of them living in the lake dependent on what we see as another viable food source, I think we should take into consideration that there are cycles and periods in nature that have very little to do with ourown primate awareness of time and duration.
    Bigfoot..that’s another story but ultimately hinges on our understanding that our perceptions have limits that we tend to overlook with some confidence which at times is misplace.

  18. Hi Skye,
    Thanks for that, and you’re absolutely right. I stand corrected. It is the title that, although snappy, is illusory. This is a hypothesis, not a theory.
    As a tech writer, I’d have thought you’d know that 😉

    Hi Doug,
    An interesting idea. I’ve never heard of anyone testing that.

  19. I don’t want to ever see any of them. Sometimes I wonder if it’s just to frighten us. Then we think we see what really isn’t. It’s too deep and way to scary for me. Just saying. Hope you’ve had a great weekend Anthony. 🙂

  20. Hi Sandee,
    Yes, many people share this view. And you’re right that many people see what isn’t, too.
    It still fascinates me, though.

  21. Brian said

    Yet new species keep popping up in Africa and Asia. Granted they are usually birds or fish, but even a primate is discovered now and then.

  22. Hi Brian,
    Very true. And it is not inconceivable that many sightings could be down to such things – in some areas. But in Loch Ness? An enclosed lake, saturated by peat, with minimal wildlife?
    Although there does seem to be a new species there. It clings to the shore, building its own habitat, and spends its time staring.
    Nessie Hunters, they call them 😉

  23. Brian said

    Great Britain Olympic Medals
    12 Gold
    7 Silver
    8 Bronze
    27 Total

    I’d say Nessie is quite likely based on the medal count so far. 😉 Here’s to 2012.

  24. Hi Brian,
    I’m still in shock! Our best performance for nearly a century. And for once, real money had been put into training.
    Just goes to show.

  25. alexjc38 said

    There are plenty of documented worldwide reports of weird creatures – not just yetis and Nessie-like water monsters, but also big cats (the Surrey puma), giant birds (the Thunderbird), large bear-like predators (the Nandi Bear) and others. And yes, there is a ghost-like or UFO-like aspect to them, as they seem to typically have a very real and vivid quality for those who experience them, but also a frustrating lack of unambiguous physical evidence. All part of the same thing, perhaps (whatever that thing is!)
    By the way, have you read Mythago Wood by Robert Holdstock? It is fiction, but is also a terrific exploration of archetypes manifesting themselves.

  26. Hi Alex,
    No, I haven’t read that book. I’ll have to keep an eye out for it.
    Yes, there are many other cryptozoological animal-types, although I’m not so sure about the Big Cats. I tend to subscribe to the idea that they come from generations of exotic pets released to the wild.

  27. alexjc38 said

    Hi Anthony, you may well be right about the big cats, although I’d have thought there would have been more physical evidence if that were the case; after all, they would have to die at some point and leave a skeleton. Something I just remembered – in the book Rural Rides by William Cobbett, written during the 1820s, there is a curious episode when he sees a cat “as big as a middle-sized Spaniel dog” climbing a tree near Farnham in Surrey.

  28. Hi Alex,
    In Britain many farmers have found much evidence in the past, but the authorities would have nothing to do with it. Only recently have they decided there might be something in it.
    As for a skeleton being found, their habitats are obviously deep in rural areas, and there are so many scavenger species around that if a human body is left above ground long enough, it could disappear without trace.

  29. Hi – thought your readers might be interested in this item I posted this morning in my blog:

    http://blogs.reuters.com/oddly-enough/2008/08/21/trekking-for-beasts-are-we-there-yeti/

    regards,
    Bob

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