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STIGMATA

Posted by anthonynorth on September 9, 2007

crucifixion.jpg In 1918, twenty year old Therese Neumann from Konnersreuth, Bavaria, took to bed with paralysis after witnessing a horrific fire. She was never to get out of bed again. By 1925 she began having visions and the following year she began to bleed from palms, feet and forehead every Friday, even crying tears of blood. Dying in 1962, her affliction reached a climax every Holy Week.
Therese suffered from the phenomenon of Stigmata.

THE STIGMATICS

One of the first recorded Stigmatics was St Francis of Assisi. Coming from a wealthy family, he was an adventurer. However, in 1202 he was taken prisoner, the experience causing illness. From this point on he changed, eventually having a religious experience and publicly stripping himself, thus denying material things.
In 1224 he founded the Franciscan Order and shortly afterwards he had another vision on the slopes of Mt Alvernia. He began to bleed, then, from the wounds of Christ, and bled continually for the last two years of his life.
Early SPR member Eric Dingwall studied cases of Stigmata such as that of St Mary Magdalen de Pazzi who became a Stigmatic in 1585 after much religious devotion. Dingwall concluded that it was nothing more than self mutilation, caused by the masochistic attitudes of early religious devotion.
However, when we consider the case of Padre Pio who bled continually from 1918 to his death in 1968, we must doubt the most fanatical masochism as the cause.

TOWARDS UNDERSTANDING

In 1972, ten year old Cloretta Robertson from Oakland, California, became a Stigmatic after watching a film about the crucifixion. Not particularly religious, Cloretta shows that we may not be dealing with religious devotion at all.
This becomes clear from the case of Elisabeth K, a psychiatric patient looked after by a Dr Albert Lechler in 1932. After watching slides of the crucifixion, she began to feel tingling effects at the traditional sites of the wounds of Christ. Hypnotising her, the doctor suggested wounds at these points, which duly appeared.
This suggests the idea that Stigmata is a replication of Christ’s wounds is unlikely. Evidence suggests people were nailed through the wrist during crucifixion, not the palms. Similarly, Stigmata seems to have begun when Church statuary first depicted crucifixion, giving a cultural stimuli.

A MIND THING?

What seems to be the guiding principle here is stress. Further, hypnosis can cause similar, if less severe, phenomena.
Researcher Ian Wilson feels Stigmata is self-induced by stressful sufferers who turn to prayer, causing multiple personality-type symptoms, from which the Stigmata comes. Indeed, Oscar Ratnoff of Cleveland, Ohio, investigated some sixty cases where emotional distress has caused inexplicable bleeding.
Just what causes Stigmata remains unclear. But one thing that is clear is that the ability to cause bodily scars by mind power is more common and observable than we think.

HYSTERIA

That hysteria is involved seems more than likely. Indeed, cases of hysterical blindness and paralysis are quite common, the mind having a definite effect on the body. Further evidence is offered by the placebo effect.
Here, it has been shown that a state of mind can have up to a 30% effect upon the severity, or not, of illness. As for bleeding itself, psychological states are known to have an effect upon menstruation.
Bodily blemishes, weals, and even sores can have a psychological foundation, with some cases of psoriosis being put down to stress. And if release is caused by, say, a reliance upon Christianity, it is easily possible for the result to be imitation of Christ’s wounds.

CULTURAL EFFECT

This shows a distinct cultural effect to the form psychologically induced body mutation can seem to take. And bearing this in mind, Stigmata can often be seen to be of benefit in other areas of phenomena.
For instance, the ‘focus’ of a poltergeist infestation can often exhibit such bodily change, such as words appearing on the body as weals. Evidence for reincarnation often comes in the form of similar physical scaring to a previous life.
Perhaps most relevant to modern phenomena, some cases of alien abduction are said to include physical evidence, such as marks on the body. However, by inducing the possibility of known hysteria in Stigmata, we can maybe conclude that other forces may be involved – forces from the inner mind rather than outer space.

© Anthony North, September 2007

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38 Responses to “STIGMATA”

  1. I will agree with you (and the research) that stigmata, as well as a host of other physical manifestations are a result of hysteria. That said, and being the skeptic that I am, I often wonder about bleeding or weeping religious statuary. While in Bolivia in 1996, I visited a church that had such a statue: http://www.visionsofjesuschrist.com/weeping68.htm. I wonder how much research has been done to try to determine the cause of this phenomenon – climate effects on the statuary/painting, human intervention, etc.

    A book I recently read discusses the relative frequency of the diagnosis, hysteria, given to women in the 19th century. Because it was widely accepted that women were prone to psychological weaknesses, the incidence of fainting and exhaustion was very great. The book was more specifically about a women who claimed to have not eaten food for 20+ years – due to a emotionally disturbing incident she suffered in her early 20’s. Of course common sense and human physiology leads us to the conclusion that she did eat on the sly, but she was one several 19th century women who suffered from this type of anorexia brought on by emotional distress. It was a fascinating book about the history of this aspect of mental health care in the 19th and early 20th centuries.

    Oops, a little off-topic here!

  2. anthonynorth said

    Hi OB,
    Interesting point. I suppose you could say that often, people’s psychological behaviour will lean towards what ‘society’ says it will be. Hence, if 19th century women were told they could be hysterical and faint all the time, they would. Although I have a suspicion their corsets may have had something to do with it, too.
    I think a similar concept applies to the statuary you speak of. Again, many ‘physical’ causes can be found, but I always look to culture in such episodes, and one thing I find fascinating is this: in the main, western statuary ‘expels’, whilst eastern statuary ‘imbibes’.
    An interesting cultural difference. Can we place Freudian interpretations on stone?

  3. IsaacC said

    just a fact,
    people were actually nailed through the palms. they were nailed through both feet as well. the palms can support the weight of a person if the feet are nailed up too.

  4. anthonynorth said

    Hi IsaacC,
    A hotly debated point. The following has much to say on the subject:

    http://www.catholicplanet.com/MHT/wounds-Christ.htm

  5. red pill junkie said

    Yes it is a debated topic whether people crucifixed were nailed trough the carpals, or the metacarpals. Personally I go with the first, but maybe because I’m fascinated with the shroud of Turin; also because economically it would make more sense, since you don’t waste rope needed to secure the condemned’s arms to the PATIBULUM. You spend less time too, although one must admit that the main objective of such cruel form of execution was to inflict the most amount of pain during the longest time possible.

    Incidentally, since Mel Gibson’s controversial movie “The Passion” was based on Therese Neumann’s visions, and she was a stigmatic, it’s no wonder than at the moment of the crucificion, he favors the metacarpal version.

    I go with the theory that this phenomenon is the casue of auto-suggestion, proving the mind is capable of controlling bodily functions we take as asutonomous. If I remember correctly, there was a hypnosis test where the therapyst managed to get the subject into such state of suggestion, that if that person was cut he could control the flow of blood by the sheer coaxing of the hypnotizer.

    Have you heard of Giorgio Bongiovanni? He’s an italian stigmatic, has said to have seen the Virgin Mary, and is closely tied to UFO contactee Ernesto Siragusa. With Bongiovanni the UFOs and Catholic themes get mingled in a very interesting AND confusing manner.

  6. anthonynorth said

    Hi Red,
    I think we’re only just beginning to understand the mind’s power over the body. It is a fascinating subject, and not enough science is done on it.
    Yes, I’ve heard of Bongiovanni and will get round to studying him closer some time. He sounds an amazing character, though first impressions suggest he has difficulty making up his mind concerning his spirituality.
    Maybe this is a good thing – off-the-shelf mysticism?

  7. Compline said

    Before Mel Gibson made the film he must have had done or done himself extensive reading on the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. It is said, though, that he based the action of the film on the meditations of Anne Catherine Emmerich, where the nails were through the palm of the hand, the tarsals.
    The Catholic Church has given a nod to about 200 stigmatists out of thousands claimed, most of whom were pious women. Only one, St Francis of Assisi, has been fully recognised as a stigmatist sans hysteria or self-infliction, and that probably because a pope attested to its authenticity.
    There is a movement currently on to have Padre Pio fully recognised as a genuine stigmatist from supernatural intervention.

    The life of Padre Pio has been extensively studied, and the Capuchin order to which he belonged as a monk and the Vatican subjected him to extensive medical examination whereby his stigmata was probed, attempts were made to “cure” the bleeding, it was photographed many times over the 50 years he bore the wounds and it has all been thoroughly documented. Within and without the church he was the subject of intense speculation and there were many clerical detractors so it was not as though it was a Catholic tale thrust on willing believers. On the two occasions that he had to be operated on, the wounds healed normally after about a month.

    The man was unique. He worked an 18 hour day, eating very little and that only under the vow of obedience. It is recorded that he barely slept two hours a night. The wounds bled continuously and appeared on his hands, feet, side, with a lacerated back, shoulder wound; and at only certain times at Mass around his head in pinpricks of blood. Surprisingly, the flowing and congealing blood was not repulsive smelling but instead had an intense perfume of fresh flowers

    His friends and brother monks as well as thousands of visitors over the 50 years that he had the stigmata reported that he had a huge sense of humour, was humble and obedient in the extreme. There was never a moment reported in his life so lacking in privacy of hysterical words or behaviour. There were times when he chucked people out of the confessional or merely shut the door on their faces when he discerned mere curiosity or rank insincerity. It is not likely that someone can sustain self-infliction or auto suggestion of such terribly painful wounds for 50 years while barely eating and yet working an 18 hour day. The would began closing in the year of his death and the final scab fell off quickly after he finally closed his eyes.

    [A mention only, since the subject is the stigmata, can also be made of his many other supernatural gifts as in bilocation, ability to “see into souls” when they came to him in confession, to “stretch” time, and the ability to heal the sick and also to raise the dead.]

    Since he devoted his life to serving the people who came to him, “saving souls”, and led an austere existence without luxuries or proper rest, sincerity is evident. He also caused funds to be collected to raise a large hospital in that poverty stricken part of southern Italy that had no proper medical or hospital facilities.

    Padre Pio once answered a question with “Do you think Jesus gave me these [stigmata] as decorations?”

    After 2000 years, controversy over just about every aspect of the life of Jesus Christ and his death, people tend to forget his message of radical forgiveness and radical love, being mired in the other historical details. The appearance of a Padre Pio with all the historical wounds, visible continuous suffering and sacrifice, teachings of prayer, love and forgiveness and his urging of the use of the sacraments (particularly confession), partaking of the Eucharist, example of veneration of Mary the mother of Jesus; not to speak of the documented and astonishing miracles of healing that he wrought, serve to point to the original Message and to the authenticity of Jesus Christ.

    Deo gratias. Grazie Padre Pio.

  8. Mary Reborn said

    I am the baby born speaking saying my name is Mary and God sent me back. While still in diapers, I told my mother that. When I was three years old, I went to a pink Baptist church in Tampa, Florida to tell the preacher this news. He went into counsel with others there and came to me and said if I was, I could prove it with the color blue. I have done so and more than that. The miraculous photo of the man in yellow is NOT Jesus, but Joseph because the preacher said my color was blue and his was yellow. You don’t understand what it is like to be me.
    I don’t like this planet. It is very evil. I prayed to get off of it and UFOS came to my aide.
    People saw this happen in Clearwater, Florida. It is very hard to be around the so called angels of light when they are really of darkness. So many thieves and liars! Jesus does miracles for me when I ask. The one of me rising above the noise of the world was told to a foreign doctor at ClarksGreen, Pa. I told him I would ask God to make photos to show him my visions and things he was telling me. True story. I feel sorry for this world when I should not. They do not feel sorry for me.

  9. Mary Reborn said

    I have this to say to this evil planet. The signs and wonders you are seeing are from God but I pray for them. Behold, thy mother Jesus is also very able to do things you never thought possible because of FAITH. I am back. I have proved it many times over. Bibles printed by King James are still incorrect and there is an evil cult who made books and movies behind my back. I do not appreciate it. This is my life story, not yours. This is my aim, my mission, my purpose, NOT YOURS. For this world has given itself to false idols and the golden calf again and the evil of it is stench in God’s nostrils. The cult does not know what danger they are in out west. Yes, I asked God to strike a stump and burn it to the ground and so was done. AMEN
    I am not a fake. In fact, my life is so incredible that I must now be guarded and protected from the evil ones who would try to get to know me for their own agendas.

  10. Mary Reborn said

    The movie Stigmata was of course sensationalized. My life is real. The stories I tell are real. All can be documented and verified. Countless to come miracles as well. May miracles never cease. I do not find the cult who chases after me for profit amusing or beneficial.
    You better watch out because I do have a fierce temper.

  11. Mary Reborn said

    How do I know things? How do I say things with the accuracy I have said? You have to be me to know that. Jesus to some hanging up on their walls is like some wonderment. Let me tell you this, Jesus died FROM our sins. Death is not pleasant. Do we ever stop to think of my feelings at this time of year? Do you? Did you know what it is like to be back and see a ever sinning world try to laugh me off? Do you? Do you know how it is to ask for a sign and get it moments after asking for it? No, you don’t. You are not me is why.

  12. anthonynorth said

    Hi Mary,
    Thanks for your comments, but I think that’s enough.

  13. cecilio a perez said

    Hello Mary Reborn:
    You stated “I feel sorry for this world when I should not. They do not feel sorry for me.” If you think you should not feel sorry for this world, then you didn’t learn anything from Jesus.

  14. Where can I learn more of Mary Reborn. I am interested.

  15. anthonynorth said

    Hi Paul,
    Afraid I can’t help you there. If she’s still logging on, she may get in touch.

  16. JOHN AMBROSE said

    ..This is interesting….but I really do not waste time pondering it…it means nothing, no more than the Patriots at the Super Bowl……it does not change at all my faith in God, nor does the fake shroud of Turin, the famous hoax that the gullible cling to.

  17. Tom said

    Dear Author

    As a retired psychologist, I am at a loss to understand how ‘hysteria’ without self infliction is a legitmate explanation or diagnosis for stigmata. How does the physiology of the body allow for such a discrete and specific phenomenon? I will grant that for years psychology/psychiatry have validated hysterical blindness and deafness. Although we, professionals, often attempt to identify in the patient a point of trauma or perhaps a neuropsychological disorder hysterical blindness many of us are at a loss as to a ‘scientific’ explanation. It is interesting that we, professionals, are more than willing to accept the notion that the power of the mind-body relationship believing that accounts for such cases. I would contend that stigmata is a further stretch on the Dx of hysteria. Is it possible that these issues are metaphysical and therefore beyond the competence of clinical diagnosis or explanation ? If a person is an atheist, the idea of attributing such phenomenon to God or the metaphysical is impossible. However, for the person who believes in God, such phenomena should considered not as just a case of hysteria but potentially an Act of God.

    Tom

    May God Bless and Keep you in His Loving Arms

  18. Random said

    I think this is the real deal because there was a few non religious people who new Jesus.

  19. Random said

    I think this is the real deal because I recently learned that even non religious peole knew and met Jesus so it could happen to anyone.

  20. Rudy said

    A lot of people try to figure out if the actual physical occurrence of Stigmata is in fact a direct sign from God, or self-inflicted by the person who is a devout Christian, whose spirituality is their main focus. But it should not matter how we try to conclude which is the real manner in which they are produced. A person’s spiritual life should be held private, and no one else can judge how they wish to feel “closer” to God, and His Word. Of course, if they are inflicting the wounds upon themselves for profit, or just to get the attention of others, that’s when it should be considered a fraud/hoax, and be frowned upon.
    But those who choose, by their choice, to self-inflict in private to become either more obedient to their Master, or gain spiritual knowledge, then it’s their choice to make. And they shouldn’t worry about the wounds becoming infected, or feel they are destroying their “spirit’s temple”, because if their faith is that strong, the wounds will heal fully, and their soul is the only thing that needs to be considered a priority when it comes to destruction.
    I pray that all who read this article about Stigmata, will be blessed by God, no matter what they choose to believe how these wounds occur upon many people of the world. It’s been happening since the 13th Century, and I imagine, will continue until we’re taken Home.

  21. Hi Rudy,

    ‘And they shouldn’t worry about the wounds becoming infected, or feel they are destroying their “spirit’s temple”, because if their faith is that strong, the wounds will heal fully …’

    This may or may not be true for an absolute believer – I don’t know. But I do know that most would become seriously ill if they carried this out.
    Not a good idea at all!

  22. Teilor said

    very good

  23. Hi Teilor,
    Thanks for that.

  24. Kimberly Dean-Cavetti said

    I do believe in what people call a “Stigmata”, I think there is an other type of “Stigmata”, like when you feel the same emotions as christ. I have expirienced that, but not how Christ feels. But how my friend Jenny Feels. I can feel the same emotions as Jenny. I am scared. When ever she hurts, I hurt, and I cant make it go away.

  25. Hi Kimberley,
    This sounds more like some kind of empathic togetherness, similar to telepathy, whatever that is. From the literature of the paranormal, believe me, it is quite common and nothing to worry too deeply about.

  26. ukalien said

    If we look for a moment at the science of Stigmata we can readily interpret the causes of such phenomenon as produced by the inner workings of the human body bought on by intense suggestion as demonstrated through hypnosis early on in your post. What I cannot accept however is the fact that to produce the Stigmata effect physical blood has to be drawn through the skin at the requisite points on the body. We can believe and understand scientifically that blood can be induced to the surface of the skin through hypnosis, but this does not explain how the blood actually breaks through the skin to produce the effect.

  27. Hi Ukalien,
    Thanks for that. There are studies going back years of mild forms of this, especially escaping through hair follicles in psychologically disturbed people.
    If the process is observable, then we’re only talking, here, of intensity.

  28. People lied to me and caused me great harm. Christianity is like a sad tale now. Why does mankind need a savior? How does evil thrive so well in America when no one is looking? I feel that God was correct. Hateful birds, generation of vipers, and for all intents and purposes, self-lovers. What was once to me, uplifting and marvelous has become an albatross around my neck due to the hate and illwill done against me on various blogs. People lying and covering up for their evil, saying I need to be locked up! For what? Pray tell. I never met so many assinine people in one country. It’s gone down so much despite all the peaceful efforts I tried. I proved that I pray to God and was attacked by real Satanists and still I get scoffed at by neigh sayers and unbelievers in Christ. Suffering the stigmata as a child, I know that people are forgetting something of great value. Lately, it has been rational decision making on their part about me and the way I was born and the things that came later as I prophecised. Satan is real folks and the lake of fire of which takes the evil ones’ soul is also real. The games that some are playing in order to get famous or noted are wicked. I have already proven myself and there are people who just want to get in on it and will lie for money they hope for
    in order to harass me. Leave me alone. Just leave me alone. You people are sinners who go around acting like you know it all.

  29. None of you realize what signs and wonders are for! Irk me then. What is going on around us may not be any of your business anyhow. God is quite capable at helping his own who believe. This is not for you to determine, decipher, or to change. I will always pray to God. I will always accept the Trinity. I will always tell the world the truth behind the miracles we are currently seeing in America. I will not back down and I will not go quietly either. Sin is sin and you cannot keep hiding the dirty deeds of so many in our country that are causing us to lock our doors at night. Something is foul. People who try to be so scientific are off base. God is God and that is that. Signs and wonders are proof that God exists.

  30. Hi Who Really Knows,
    I have deleted your latest posts – more than half a dozen of them. I’ve done this because:

    1. You’ve already said it above.
    2. One comment should be adequate.
    3. You mention specific people – how do I know this isn’t libel?

    If you have anything new to say, in ONE short comment, and without mentioning people, fair enough, but any more of the same will be deleted.

  31. I came across your blog after I blogged stigmata. As far as a hysteria explanation, would anyone really want to feel the wounds of Christ in this extreme way? Would they do it for attention? Most of the modern stigmatas I can think of, Padre Pio comes to mind, went to great lengths to hide their wounds. I really enjoyed reading everything that was written here.

  32. Hi Simone,
    Thanks for that. I suppose we can experience hysteria for many reasons. Religious ecstasy is a powerful motivation, and would be personal, thus giving the need to hide. For others, we must remember that many self harm, so yes, I can see some wanting to experience it.

  33. gina said

    About a year ago when meditating on the suffering of Christ on the
    cross I had pain in both palms. My hands don’t ordinarily have that
    kind of pain in both palms. After about a year upon some meditations
    the pain became more intense and would last about twenty minutes.
    Now sometimes it just starts up without Christian meditation.
    I feel both blessed and honored to experience this. I’m not a saint
    by any means but I try to be a good Christian by doing for others,etc. My two family members don’t take this seriously, I think
    they feel it’s all in my head.

  34. ram said

    Thanks for the author. Personally I really believes in sign and wonder.

  35. Steve said

    Why is it that most try to deny events that may be attributed to God? Where has this world gone so wrong? Sad.

  36. Hi Steve, I don’t deny what may be attributable to God, but we also exist in a more scientific, reasoned paradigm. If credibility is to come, all paradigms must be taken into account.

  37. Letty Woods - Moore said

    In 1972, my childhood friend, would bleed from her palms and feet with no cuts around Easter time, I always wondered what happened to her, we attended Elementary School together, she helped me learn to play the clarinet…. she was a good friend and we would have fun playing, I would love to know how she is doing these days and say hello. We (schoolmates, neighbors and my family) all thought she was so special, not really understanding myself at such an early age what and why this was happening to her, we just knew she was connected to God…. Cocoa I pray that you and your family is doing well.

  38. Chloe said

    I … Don’t believe that every case is hysteria and should be written off as wanting to impress the religious world. Urban legends? So far fetched. The truth is simple. What is not understood is always distorted and always feared.

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